Tom Winnifrith taken to court with laughter from Sharesoc

28th Feb '17 by GrindertraderUK

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I expect to be banned from here soon because Stockopedia will be asked by Sharesoc to ban me, (or Paul Scott) so I will say this now, but we need to help and support Tom Winnifrith against Aiden Ealey who is trying to shut down such a valuable free service by donating to Shareprophets fighting fund.

I asked @SharesocUk if they would help in the fight again this court action..

Roger of Sharesoc writes...

It seems that Roger has the support of ALL Sharesoc directors .. but although Roger thinks this is a laughing matter... I DONT!

New private investors face a huge uphill struggle to learn the stock market and it isn't helped by the high risk stuff reported on share_talk blogs or the bulletin boards of London South East, ADVFN etc.

The last thing private investors need is bad opinions from the company dedicated to helping change legislation in order to protect the private investor further. Yet one member Sharesoc director treats the Sharesoc platform for their own personal agenda. Blogging often questionable opinions about individual high risk stocks and when getting it wrong simply doesn't apologise. I worry for new investors going to Sharesoc for advice and reading Rogers blogs.

Tom has protected the private investor more than any other

Roger has written his own opinion on Brexit , belittling those who voted differently. and of some big risk stocks that failed using the Sharesoc platform. THe is now wishing Tom to lose the court battle . How on earth is that helping private investors? Does Sharesoc really want to see Shareproohets closed down? Who will then help in the fight against bad, dodgy, fraud stocks? Is Sharesoc capable compared to the direct actions of Shareprophets?

I know the staff of Stockopedia support Sharesoc so I expect this post (and me) to disappear soon. But one thing I want to say is that when I do something wrong, I admit to it and try to reconcile. Roger is a disgrace to Sharesoc and should be fired. Sharesoc should be about changing legislation to help and protect private investors. This is happening but at what expense?

Roger does many hours without pay. The board recognised that, but without Roger does Sharesoc exist? I get the feeling that the BOD have no option but to defend Roger's use of Sharesoc as a personal platform to voice his…

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28th Feb '17

Ian,

Apart from your drunken sporadic outbursts on twitter, what else are you doing to protect private investors?.
It's a shame you lack this passion and enthusiasm when you're sober.

If you're for something, be for it all the time. Don't just pipe up whenever you've lined your liver with fizzy wine

GrindertraderUK

I always advise for novice investors to learn from platforms Stockopedia or Sharescope/sharepad. I always advise to use stop losses and I always advise to look at increasing revenue, earnings, low debts, and positive cash flow inline with earnings. I advise to stay away from resources, mining and jam tomorrow stock. I have seen too many lose everything from that... CTAG.

am a growth investor and I stick to an investment plan.

I will always say sorry when I am wrong, but really despise city analysis and people in responsible positions within the LSE forums who go on promoting crap and when they get it wrong fail to apologise.

I am a growth investor (not value) and me drinking has nothing to do with my steady long term plans thank you. I share my ideas and I am happy to help new investors get away from story stocks, high risk tech stock, Pharma stock and mining stocks.....

I also recognise the fantastic work others....but will critise those who in 'responsible' positions abuse that position for their own agenda..i.e Roger Lawson's blogs and use of the Sharesoc platform.

I'll drink to that and the day Sharesoc fully focuses on it's core aims.

1st Mar '17

That's just your approach. Don't fool yourself into thinking that this is only approach that works. People obviously make money from resources, mining, etc. The excellent book 'deep value' talks in depth about companies with horrible fundamentals that still make great investments. So your 'advice' is nothing but opinion and it may or may not work for someone else.

And in any case, the fact that you post about your specific approach does not make you in any sense at all, some sort of defender of small investors. What frauds have you uncovered?, where is your work?. Who specifically have you helped?. You've done nothing but reveal yourself as a low budget Tom Wannabe. But at least he can be praised.

I accept your heart is more than likely in the right place with these drunken twitter campaignes but they're useless.
You'll sober up in the morning and appologize as usual and that will be it.....until late you're drunk again.

Go do something useful if you're serious about this

""Don't fool yourself into thinking that this is only approach that works. People obviously make money from resources, mining, etc. The excellent book 'deep value' talks in depth about companies with horrible fundamentals that still make great investments. So your 'advice' is nothing but opinion and it may or may not work for someone else.""

Oh gosh!!!!!! Unavailable!! You best do this on the LSE asylum

Weak response. Adressed none of the important points. Expected though from a guy who is currently blocking and unfollowing friends on Twitter in his emotional quest to protect the private investor.
You lack the mental capacity to have a mature conversation here. What chance have you got in your drive to protect anyone. From anything.

I hope you take at least some of this on board and give us something pragmatic. We're all exhausted with this routine.

It isn't a weak response. Your trying to promote 'making money from Stocks with horrible fundamentals' which goes against everything private investors should do in the stock market. Only the very very best could make money from identifying stocks with weak fundamentals that have potential to return to growth . Very few are ever successful in that.

Maybe you should read Stockopedia's educational resources?

Promote?. I'm not promoting it anymore than you are. I used it an example of a completely different approach to yours and you just agreed that it works for some people.
That is the point, different things work for different people. I don't have the tempermant for it either but that doesn't mean that nobody else does or that my way is the only way.
If it were as simple as picking shares with good fundamentals, we'd all be millionaires by now but of course that's not the case. Infact if that's your only advice to new investors, you could be doing more harm than good.

And I see you've now unfollowed or blocked most of the people you've been friends with for years on twitter. Way to go, fella. What a way to take a stand in helping the small pi. I'm sure if people who were genuinely conned with ctag check with their broker, the money will be back in their accounts after that move.

I've wasted enough time on you now. Have a good day.

You think CTAG bulls will get their money back by checking with the broker. Your advising that?? and you say I am doing harm?

You also state I am harming others by advising to invest in stocks with good fundamentals..

Seriously....

Again you have problems with comprehension. I was pointing out how stupid it is to block and unfollow people on twitter as a way to help the small investor. Maybe you can clear it up, how exactly is that helping anyone?. It's pathetic. But it's all you're willing to do, right?. You want to appear to be making a stand with your fake outrage that only surfaces when you're over the limit. But in reality you're no better than the people you're shouting about on social media.

janebolacha

Why don't the two of you use the private message facility so that the rest of us aren't bothered with this squabble between you?

Murakami

Hi guys, let's move on please - Stockopedia isn't the place for this kind of ad hominem discussions, there are plenty of BBs for that. We want to keep the site very focused on investing idea generation. Any more comments along these lines on this thread will be moderated. See: http://help.stockopedia.com/community-guide/postin...

Sincerest appologies to everyone. I won't post on this again.

Tom Winnifrith taken to court with laughter from Sharesoc

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