I have been using moneyam for live pricing with live volume prices as well. Unfortunately, they are been took over. Does anyone know a good comparable L1 service provider?
If you need to subscribe. You can get the first quarter for £9 via the MoneyAM offer..
https://www.sharesmagazine.co.uk/offer/MONEYAM
FWIW. Afaik, Shares will carry much the same Stockwatch as MoneyAM does. The way I understand it is that the code/data you see on MoneyAM Stockwatch is just being taken over to the new site (but may be wrong).
There is also a note to say that if you email support (mediasupport@ajbell.co.uk) with both your MoneyAM and Shares email addresses, that they will transfer your Stockwatch notes over from MoneyAM to Shares after the 21st.
Thanks Furtim. I followed the link on the Moneyam website and have now created a new Shares account. All good
BTW: The Stockwatch on Shares DOES show live (not delayed) prices (for subscribers) now. But the auto updating (as you get on MoneyAM) is not due to be in place until the 21st. Or at least that is what I was told. So until then you have to refresh the page manually to get the latest price. I was also told that the Stockwatch on Shares will have additional columns added at some point too. So it is more like the MoneyAM one.
I signed up to investing.com today. It seems quite a decent offering, but it uses non-standard TIDM codes for some stocks which is a bit confusing.
It also rejected my password when I logged out and tried to log back in again. It said the password should be a maximum of 15 characters. But it seems a 15 character password gets rejected when you try to log in (worked OK during account creation.)
I signed up to investing.com today. It seems quite a decent offering, but it uses non-standard TIDM codes for some stocks which is a bit confusing.
Investing.com covers a lot of international markets so if there are duplicate symbols in different countries it alters them, I just type the name of the stock into the search window. I also find the android app good for mobile stock price alerts.
I think investing.com uses the same codes as Reuters. So far I've been unable to find a nice table showing the mappings between Reuters and TIDM.
Thanks for all the replies. My own observations are:
It would be nice for Stockopaedia to offer L1 live pricing on watchlists as it is a big omission.
Further, their charting software is woeful compared to the likes of investing.com or Stockcharts .com who offer things like scanning for breakouts after consolidation. I cannot understand how something like average daily volume indicator is not provided. Intraday volume with price is key to trading for many.
Marketsmith is another example of the way to go.
Moneyam has been great. Pity they are not offering a free version which was ok for many.
It would really be nice if stocko offered a few quality extras even if they might be extra. At least you would have a choice and would make Stocko the one to go for a truly complete package.
Come on Ed Croft transform Stockopedia from a great package to a truly exceptional one!
The reason is I think that Stockopedia is historically concentrated mainly on longer term fundmental/factor investing rather than shorter term trading. Hence the charts do lag other providers quite substantially as they aren't geared to the shorter term investor/trader and there doesn't seem to be much focus on them - I reported a bug on the chart date box well over a year ago for example and it's still hasn't been fixed.
We'll need to see what the new site brings but at present you definitely need a second provider if your approach is a fundamental (where Stockopedia is excellent) + technical one.
Just in case anyone is interested. Stockwatch has gone to live streaming on Shares today. Looks a lot like the old MoneyAM stockwatch. Even has the little boxes on the left that you can click for charts, news and trades, same Icons as used before on MoneyAM.
I also noticed clicking on the "T" (trades) button takes you to streaming live trades now for the given ticker, much the same as before on MoneyAM. Shares "trades" were not live streaming before, but now they appear to be.
Well... that went well! Shares website has crashed this morning so no access to Stockwatch live prices. All the hallmarks of an AJ Bell operation so I can't say I'm surprised. Can I get my nine quid back? Si
I am disappointed at the lack of response from Ed to the requests here. It would be good to know if this is something that stocko are looking at, because as it is I have a limited budget for accessing information and if I can no longer get live prices for free I will have to pay for it. And in making that decision it would be useful to know whether stocko will be filling the gap or not.
Personally, I think the LSE should encourage this data to be disseminated for free. Increasingly people I know trade on the US markets because of liquidity problems in the UK (particularly AIM) and reduced access to real time prices will reduce the attractiveness of the LSE still further.
For live prices I use LSE (London South East) and IGG.
On the IGG ISA platform you get live prices for free, although they do not advertise this fact - note here I am talking about the ISA not the Spreadbetting account. This works very well, with no hitches - all you need is a IGG ISA or standard sharedealing account. You also get DMA access so that you can place trades directly on the order book. This is especially useful with smaller stocks with a wide spread - you can often buy at the Bid price and sell at the Offer (so long as it is not an MM only stock).
I use LSE for L2 and live prices. This is a paid for service, and I use it mainly for L2, which I find very useful. As a service it is 'OK', it has a lot of glitches and is often slow to update unless you do a screen refresh. I would really like a better L2 service, but cannot find anything better, I've looked at all the others.
My view with Stockopedia is that they are not interested in tools that could help 'traders'. I have seen requests for live prices and L2 for more than 4 years and no response. I feel their focus is firmly on fundamentals and 'quant' stock ranks etc - the things for 'investors' not 'traders'. I dislike the distinction with 'traders' which is why I have emphasised it. We are all traders, we're all in this to make money.
This is also evident in the chart capabilities which are poor in comparison with other sites such as TradingView which has an excellent chart system which is incredibly flexible and customisable.
Anyway, that's my two cents, I am sure there will be people that disagree.
Terrible isn't it. If I am honest, I expected a few teething problems. But I didn't expect to see the site drop dead. I took the £9 offer as well, but it looks like I will be cancelling the renewal for sure. Not at all impressed. Numpties.
Interesting comments about AJ Bell. I have seen numerous bad comments about them and their service for months. If today's fiasco is anything to go by, I will certainly be steering clear of anything that is to do with them in the future. Why, well it would seam that most of those past comments that I read about their platform, customer services and general IT service have now all been proven up. Numpties.
Terrible isn't it. If I am honest, I expected a few teething problems. But I didn't expect to see the site drop dead. I took the £9 offer as well, but it looks like I will be cancelling the renewal for sure. Not at all impressed. Numpties.
Yes, I think their IT system is run on a late 90's Pentium running Windows 95 from Andy Bell's nephews bedroom. Connection to the wider world is using a 48kbps dial-up modem. To be honest, the AJ Bell dealing platform was rubbish to start with but has improved over they years to be very good and easy to use. One can hope eventually they will get the live prices working reliably and the website running properly. Whether that is before the 3 month trial is up, we will have to wait and see...
All the best, Si
Well if this morning is anything to go by, I suspect the Pentium is now toast. But what is to be seen, is if his nephew will now upgrade to something quicker. With a bit of luck he will go out and find something at a car boot sale over the weekend. If not, might be back to his old ZX Spectrum, which I heard was his backup device :)
Joking aside, there really is no reason for this to happen in this day and age. They could have had a server up and running on the Shares side long before they retired the old one on MoneyAM. Allowing a few weeks of transition to smooth out any errors.
But of course you need an organisation full of professionals to understand and implement that. They seam to have numpties instead.
Nuff said.
Joking aside, there really is no reason for this to happen in this day and age. They could have had a server up and running on the Shares side long before they retired the old one on MoneyAM. Allowing a few weeks of transition to smooth out any errors.
Nope, there's no reason at all for this kind of thing, apart from underfunded IT systems and an incompetent IT team who fail to plan and prepare for taking on new subscribers by expanding the capability of their backend systems in time. They must know exactly how many people were switching from MoneyAM so to get it so wrong is a very bad joke.
It currently says "The service will continue to evolve"!! Well, it had better, and fast.
All the best, Si
Ironically my MAM stockwatch is working fine today, This is because I had left it on pause overnight. If you try to put in https://www.moneyam.com/stockwatch from fresh it takes you to the Shares site. The buttons at the side for news and trades don't work - they give error 1020 access denied,
