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marben100 23rd Jun '09 1 of 99
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A poll facility would be nice, which allows the creator of the poll to get feedback against a range of choices from other S'pedia members.

The facility would need:

  1. To allow the creator to make a "poll posting" on any thread and describe the poll
  2. To allow the creator to set up a list of menu options
  3. To allow viewers of the poll to vote once for ONE of the provided options
  4. Having voted, to allow viewers to see how many votes each option has garnered in total.

This is very much a "nice to have" feature and might be addressed after more basic usabilty issues

Cheers,

Mark

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doverbeach 23rd Jun '09 2 of 99
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Favourites facility - many ways to skin this cat and I know it is on the to do list, but could the admins discuss how you are planning to do it? Some input here from users could be really useful as this is an absolutely key thing to get right.

db

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SteveM 23rd Jun '09 3 of 99
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Feedback requested, feedback provided. It might be nice to display forums for those stocks associated with the stocks in a user watchlist or portfolio. The user could specifically exclude those they didn't wish to see. Some mechanism required to add the more general areas to a set of favourite forums, but you get the idea.

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marben100 23rd Jun '09 4 of 99
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As I see it there need to be two aspects to this facility - though it might be possible to cover both aspects from a single page.

Firstly, we need the ability to set-up "favourites". Currently, this functionality seems to be spread around several places:

  • Watchlists
  • Portfolios
  • Network
  • Bookmarking

It would be less confusing if it were available in one place, where you could set up and edit what you are interested in:

  • Threads
  • Stocks
  • Sectors
  • Themes
  • General topics
  • S'pedia members (the "follower" concept)

Bookmarking is a convenient way to add things to your favourites page but using EPICS to add stocks (as in watchlists/portfolios) directly from the favourites page would be very useful too.

Then we need this functionality for each of the selections the user has made:

  • In the case of individual threads, we need to see a list of favourite threads with the number of new posts and when the most recent post was made since we've last visited the thread (some may want to see other information about the new posts - but the quanitity & most recent date is enough for me)
  • In the other cases (stocks/sectors etc), ALL threads for the stock/sector etc should be listed, showing the same info as if the thread had been individually selected. The page should also show newly created threads within the stock/sector etc (with the "new" highlight, as you've just introduced - nice feature :0)).
  • To reduce clutter, when a user has selected a stock/sector etc for their favourites, it should be possible for the user to "ignore" threads that they are not interested in. Specifically ignored threads will no longer appear on the favourites page- but there needs to be a means to view ignored threads so that the user can "un-ignore" them if they change their mind.
  • The user needs to be able to control the order of their favourites page and for that order to be remembered by S'pedia. E.g. alphabetical order by thread name, by most recent/oldest post date, by number of new posts since thread last visited.

Us users don't ask for much, do we? :0)

Cheers,

Mark

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doverbeach 23rd Jun '09 5 of 99
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Not sure if this is included in what Mark has suggested, but I would also like the abilty to favourite a sector and see all posts relating to stocks in that sector, without having to favourite them specifically. So I want to be able to see when any new posts on any O&G stocks have been made. As well as any general posts on the sector.

None of this seems paticularly difficult.

What may be more challenging is to allow some threads to belong to more than one sector/Theme. So posts on a small-cap in the bio-tech sector could also be tagged as Small Cap and a post on a FTSE 350 construction company could also be tagged as Value and I would see each of them if I have favourited the Small-cap and Value Tags even if I am not particularly interested in Bio-tech or Construction. This tagging would be more subjective, being done presumably by the person who started the thread, but that is inevitable.

db

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marben100 25th Jun '09 6 of 99

It would be rather useful to be able to upload files, especially spreadsheets, which could then be used in thread headers, wikis and posts.

Some form of virus detection would, however, be required to maintain site integrity.

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promethean 25th Jun '09 7 of 99
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Marben -  file hosting is a perilous issue... mainly due to the potential for lawsuits from brokers etc.  We've added the email facility so that people can share files quickly via the site, but doing more than this is going to be impossible.  We would love to have that facility and aggregate brokers notes in one place - but the old world attitude to freedom of information is still too prevalent.

None of this seems paticularly difficult.

It's very clear that we all want the same thing... but you have to understand that this is an extremely difficult thing to do due the widely divergent levels of data required to be aggregated.

If you see a list of  what you've asked for (and what we'd like to provide)...you want a feed of all content relating to...

  • favourite users' activities
  • favourite stocks, sectors, themes - and any other topics
  • favourite tags
  • favourite threads
  • threads or topics that are 'tagged' a certain word
  • any content relating to stocks in a certain sector or sub-sector

... and that's just off the top of my head.  Add to that the fact that there are and will be multiple content types and you may start having a sense of the scale of the issue.

We will be creating a favourite threads or topics facility for the forums as an interim solution... bookmarks will be going... but it will be much longer before we can create what everyone here wants... I guarantee that we will - but it will take some time - so patience will be required.

 

SteveM - there's an 'activity' feed in your watchlists, but also on the active threads or board highlights page - theres an option 'my stocks' in the dropdown... which filters recent activity to just your stocks.

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doverbeach 25th Jun '09 8 of 99
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In reply to promethean (post #7)

If you see a list of  what you've asked for (and what we'd like to provide)...you want a feed of all content relating to...

  • favourite users' activities
  • favourite stocks, sectors, themes - and any other topics
  • favourite tags
  • favourite threads
  • threads or topics that are 'tagged' a certain word
  • any content relating to stocks in a certain sector or sub-sector

... and that's just off the top of my head.  Add to that the fact that there are and will be multiple content types and you may start having a sense of the scale of the issue.

My reference to 'not seeming particularly difficult' only referred to the first para of my post, not my subsequent para which I agreed was more complex, let alone your wish list :)

OK, I am going to stress this because I suspect what I am asking for will prove a very satisfactory start for a lot of people (? most) and one which you can then build on at your leisure.

I am only asking for a favourites page that relates to threads, not wikis, blogs, news or any other form of content.  If these are easy to include, then great, if not then I suggest that you don't compromise the boards basics by trying to include other forms of content.

I am not asking for a favourites page to pick up stuff from favourite posters. You can enhance the Network page if you want to provide something here.

I am not asking for tagging at the moment - that would be nice but it is very much an optional extra.

I am not asking to be able to favourite threads. Although I suppose this could be useful for some themes, in general I think people will be very happy if they can favourite at a higher level. Being able to favourite threads if you can't do the higher level is not helpful as it will lead to missing posts. The purpose of the favourites page is not primarily to show the posts that you already know you want to read - it is to be able to pick up the new threads that you don't yet know exist.

What I want is to be able to favourite sectors/themes and see all posts that come within that category, And to additionally be able to favourite certain stocks. So I could favourite O&G sector, Mining Sector, Lloyds and Indigovision. Or Banking sector, Soco, Dana and Feature Requests.

And if I favourite the Banking Sector,the question is at what level to show the results. there seem to me to be two options. Either  my favourites page will show one line for the Banking Sector, with the number of New posts being the sum of any new posts on threads in that sector plus new posts on any threads on the individual Banks - so if I click on the line, it will then show me all the threads with new posts and I can then open the threads I want - OR the favourites page can go down a level staright away, giving me a line each for threads on the sector or banks within the sector which have new posts. I can think of pros and cons for both options for the user so perhaps you could go with whatever is easier :)

We will be creating a favourite threads or topics facility for the forums as an interim solution...

I am not sure what 'topics' will result in.

db

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Murakami 26th Jun '09 9 of 99
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We are thinking of stripping out all admin threads (like this one) out of the "Active Threads" page by default, so that, if you come fresh to the site, you just see investment-related threads and you would have to specify "General" or more likely "Admin" in order to see these other meta-threads. Any comments?

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doverbeach 26th Jun '09 10 of 99
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I think that is a good idea at the moment, at least until people have more control over what they see through favourites.  But I am not sure where you would specify "Admin" to see those threads???

manzanilla

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SW10Chap 26th Jun '09 11 of 99

I am not asking for tagging at the moment - that would be nice but it is very much an optional extra.

Can I second, third and fourth this?

I recognize that I don't know exactly what you have in mind, but I really think that tagging will prove a bit of a dead-end. It will require users to make some effort over-and-above posting or simply lurking and I can't see what the return would be.

If I want to see posts on a certain stock, I simply need to find the relevant board, which is straightforward. What else would I want to look for? Perhaps a key words such as "high-yield" or "China" or "remuneration"?

But wouldn't I just use the search facility to home in on those words?

SW10

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marben100 26th Jun '09 12 of 99
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In reply to Murakami (post #9)

We are thinking of stripping out all admin threads (like this one) out of the "Active Threads" page by default

Nooooo! There is no other easy way, ATM, for me to see what's going on on those threads (and there are an increasing number of them) - unless you can advise of a way.

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marben100 26th Jun '09 13 of 99

If what's proposed for now is just to able to designate threads as favouties and have a page similar to the "active threads" page but only relating to those favourites, that's sufficient for me, EXCEPT...

Another page is needed to show new threads only, so that I can scan that to see whether there are any newly created ones that I might also be interested in and want to add to my favourites.

Cheers,

Mark

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Isaac 27th Jun '09 14 of 99
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Why does'nt these improve the forum posts be posted on a separate board or why don't we just have one thread? Is this not an Investment forum. Amazing how these tyypes of posts have swamped the board.

It makes finding the posts difficult. I have become very lazy & don't want to read all posts to find information. I never read all the posts on any forums, I am only interested in selective posts and there is'nt any function to filter posts.

What is the difference between Subject and Title? Very annoying when i have to stop and think about which is which .... Why can't this be called something more meaninful rather then meaning pretty much the same thing!

Isaac

(Taking a break from markets and bulletin boards, the Weather is too good)

 

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djpreston 27th Jun '09 15 of 99
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Isaac At the moment this is very much a work in progress. That's why its a beta version. We're posting some investment topics and a lot of "usability/feature" type posts at the moment so that S'pedia can get the look and feel of the site right drawing on the opinions of seasoned bb vets. Already we've seen a lot of changes with a lot more to come. With regard to your filtering problems, use the forum tab and active discussions. Its pretty obvious from that which threads are investment related and which are "testing/improvement" type threads. Enjoy the rest of the weekend and hopefully this fine weather continues. D
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Isaac 29th Jun '09 16 of 99
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Its pretty obvious from that which threads are investment related and which are "testing/improvement" type threads

 

 

You missed the point I was making. The problem with these boards is it is very difficult to filter posts by

-Poster

-Number of Recs

I don't read all posts. I have become lazy and I am spending even less time in front of a pc, but that is me trying to use my time more effectively - I no longer want to spend hours and hours on a pc unless under special circumstances when the market is moving fast and requires a bit more effort. On TMF i can collapse the threads and pick and choose which posts to read, which posters to read about and if a post is worth reading from one of my non-favourites then I expect it to get a fair number of recs for me to read it. A few thumbs up does'nt tell me whether the post is good without having to click on it.

And what makes it even more worse is the board has been swamped with improve the site posts. What is wrong with having one thread where a range of issues are discussed and as new ideas are brought up the open header is edited?

The site is also running on a slow server.

I think the colour scheme can be better, It is not very modern. It seems to be the default colour scheme from the software package.

 

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SW10Chap 18th Jul '09 Moderated for Bug Report
Murakami 18th Jul '09 18 of 99
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Ok, thanks for pointing that out, SW10Chap - that was an oversight on our part and we will fix that glitch soon in the next release. In the interim, I am going to moderate your post to keep the issue under wraps until we fix it. Hope you don't mind.

For those who are intrigued as to the secretive topic, it's not that exciting!:-)

Cheers, M

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StrollingMolby 18th Jul '09 19 of 99

Murakami,

I have two suggestions for your consideration having contended with the Forums this week:

Firstly, would you consider changing the 'thumbs up, thumbs down' buttons on the Forums to match those on the Stock Wikis - they are much clearer, and will stop me and others clicking a 'thumbs down' in error.

Secondly, when a new thread appears on the Forums, could you put a +1 against it if a user hasn't viewed it before?  And perhaps change the column header from 'Replies' to 'Replies / Unread'?

Thanks,  SM

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