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Administrator 5th Aug '09 20 of 99
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Hi, after a number of requests, we have now made it easier to cross-refer to other stocks between threads. From now on, if you use the '£ticker' notation with a specific ticker when either creating a thread or posting on a thread, this will create an automatic link using the stock name to the thread area for that particular stock.

So, for example, if you are in the Oil and Gas M&A thread and you want to cross-refer to Aminex, you would write '£ticker' where the ticker is 'AEX' and this will create an automatic link using the stock name back to the Aminex discussion area, just like this - £AEX. 

Please let us know if you find this feature useful or if you would like it changed.

Thanks.

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emptyend 5th Aug '09 21 of 99
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I usually find that I want to cross-refer to specific posts or sections of a specific thread. Using the £ticker approach makes the thing look Wiki-like .....but mainly by creating links that are less useful than they might at first appear!

For example, I was looking for public transport information in Birmingham last weekend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_City_Centre and the "transport" section of that Wiki page contains links to generic and irrelevant topics such as "UK Government", "roundabouts", "pedestrianised" and "Railway station"....none of which have any direct connection of use for the specific topic under discussion in the "Birmingham City Centre - Transport" section!

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SW10Chap 6th Aug '09 22 of 99
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creating links that are less useful than they might at first appear!

I tend to agree - a link should refer to something useful such as a specific post or thread on AEX. I can't see the value in referring to AEX as a whole by using the £ticker approach.

I think S'pedia already has a good way of embedding links using the little chain icon in the toolbar - but few people actually use it, they tend rather to paste in a whole link.

SW10

 

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emptyend 6th Aug '09 23 of 99

In reply to SW10Chap (post #22)

I think S'pedia already has a good way of embedding links using the little chain icon in the toolbar - but few people actually use it, they tend rather to paste in a whole link.

I think that is entirely a matter of familiarity. I used it once (following you) but then promptly forgot it was there!

rgds

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marben100 6th Aug '09 24 of 99
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Personally, I am pretty happy with the new feature. It has the beauty of being nice and simple for the editor - but it may be more logical to link to the overview page for the referenced stock, rather than the threads page. As SW10 points out, if you want to refer to a specific post or thread, you can always use the "link" feature.

IMO the new feature is particularly useful for posts that refer to a number of stocks, making it easier for the reader to "drill down" into any of those stocks if they want to DTOR, whilst making it easy for the post author to provide the necessary links. This will become more useful as and when the quality/accuracy of data shown on the overview page improves. ;0)

It is also important that the existence of this facility is pointed out on a "help page" for the post editor.

Cheers,

Mark

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emptyend 11th Aug '09 25 of 99
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Just as an aside, I must give a mention to the novelty value of having a decent search facility that actually works for forum posts!!! ;-)

The link is here: http://www.stockopedia.com/search/forum

....try it - I think you'll like it!

ee

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marben100 13th Oct '09 26 of 99
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Here's an idea for consideration: collapsible thread headers

Some thread headers are rather large. Rendering a large header clearly slows down thread access and makes it more of a pain to navigate to posts. Generally, you only need to see a thread header when you're new to the thread or if it has been updated since your last visit.

From my POV, as a user, it would be most useful if the thread header was not displayed - apart from the last update date/time - unless you haven't visited the thread before or the header has changed. There should be a "view header" button that displays it when pressed. Alternatively, the user could manually select, on a per thread basis, whether the header should be shown on not with view/collapse buttons to change the state,

As an aside, thread headers can form a useful adjunct to company wikis, where the wiki gives an overview of the company, with individual threads/headers addressing subtopics within the company (e.g. General Aminex info in the Wiki but specifics on Tanzania, USA in individual threads/headers).

Cheers,

Mark

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doverbeach 13th Oct '09 27 of 99
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Evening Mark,

how are you getting to the threads?  If you are going from the Active Threads list, if you click on either the New number of the last poster, you go straight to the end, so long thread headers are never an issue.  If you are getting there routinely from somewhere else, perhaps it would be good to default to going to the last post then?

I am hoping that S'pedia's data source will improve so we will be able to have today's price graph in the headers :)

db

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marben100 13th Oct '09 28 of 99

Hi db,

You're quite right that this isn't too big a problem when you access a thread from the active threads page. However, there is a subtlety: for slower browsers/connections I suspect that the downloading the thread header, where the header is large, slows down the page load time significantly.

It does seem like a good idea to retain the chart(s), even if the rest of the header is hidden. 

Just something to consider.

Best regards,

Mark

 

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SW10Chap 13th Oct '09 29 of 99
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iPhone browsing (well, specifically iPod Touch.)

The burgundy bar which appears at the bottom of my desktop screen (Profile | Inbox | Journal | Favourites...) seems to be fixed in the iPhone Safari browser, in other words it moves up and down with the page, thus continually obscuring the same section of the web-page...

SW10

 

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promethean 13th Oct '09 30 of 99

db - so are we hoping that will improve!  We are renegotiating our data deal soon, so we'll keep you posted on that front!

marben - regarding the headers... admittedly it depends on the thread.  We may recondition the forums at some point so that thread headers render identically to posts.  But I presume if we did that there would be a reaction.

Do people prefer shorter threads, or longer threads?  iii/tmf style or advfn style... we'd rather try and find the balance between the two and leave the display up to the user.... don't think we've got it right yet - but the more feedback the better!

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SW10Chap 13th Oct '09 31 of 99

In reply to promethean (post #30)

Do people prefer shorter threads, or longer threads?  iii/tmf style or advfn style

I'd still prefer to see more and shorter threads à la TMF, but the site seems to mitigate against that. I think what's missing is 'interleaving' and following posts through a timeline rather than being constrained within a thread. I've commented on this previously:

I think it's more than just thread 'etiquette.' I would also prefer to see more and varied threads and it seems to me that the S'pedia design mitigates against that.

The problem is that there seems to be no way to see threads interleaved so that one is moving through (say) SIA posts and following a timeline. Stepping through posts on TMF takes you from a drilling analysis to a news tidbit that someone picked up to a discussion on the Directors' emoluments. In other words, it's time that takes precedence, rather than thread title. Of course, it's possible to change views and focus on a thread once it grabs your attention.

SW10

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promethean 13th Oct '09 32 of 99

SW10 - do you mean you'd like to see threads within threads?

I understand that on TMF if you reply to a specific post, it creates it's own mini thread of replies right?  So you can view an entire board linearly in sequential time order, or as threaded branches... is that what you mean?

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SW10Chap 14th Oct '09 33 of 99

In reply to promethean (post #32)

Hi prom,

do you mean you'd like to see threads within threads?

It's maybe a question of terminology - TMF has a 'Board' for each company or subject area, upon which are tens, hundreds of threads.

So you can view an entire board linearly in sequential time order, or as threaded branches... is that what you mean?

Yes, I think that's right. My preference on those types of site is to step through the threads in "time" order, occasionally ocusing on a thread when I find something that has turned into an interesting discussion.

SW10

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promethean 14th Oct '09 34 of 99
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Ok, I understand. Yes that's definitely something we are considering. We'd like to promote many shorter threaded discussions. Will keep you posted on developments on this front.

We are aiming to rollout a significant change to the favourites facility over the next month or so. So that people can favourite tags and categories rather than specific threads. I should really blog about this, but that's in the pipeline next.

Best
prom

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Murakami 14th Oct '09 35 of 99
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Hi, just a quick update to show that we have made the editor "opt-in" on posts in order to increase page load speed. We will also be rolling some other changes in the next few days that should increase the site speed, so stay tuned.

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doverbeach 14th Oct '09 36 of 99

re (show editor)

are you sure this isn't loading in the background? because when I press (show editor) the reaction is near instant...

db

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SW10Chap 15th Oct '09 37 of 99
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re (show editor)

I wonder if it should be called 'Tools' or something rather than editor.

For a moment or two 'Editor' suggested to me something about the thread originator or poster. But maybe that's just me...

SW10

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marben100 15th Oct '09 38 of 99
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Re #34 (BTW - "reply" is still working inconsistently for me - most times it doesn't put in the reply text... and now causes the editor to appear too)

I hope you will still retain the ability for users to "favourite" individual threads too.

Cheers,

Mark

[edit]PS once the "show editor" feature is working properly, I'd like to see all fhe buttons/tools that are available when you edit a post for creating them too!

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waiting4godot 15th Oct '09 39 of 99
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Hi

I expect the answer is blisteringly obvious and I will look dead daft but how can I *just* see new posts on a thred and not stuff I have already read.

TIA

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