Level 2 comes to Stockopedia!!... kinda :)

22nd Jun '20 by uktraderdiary

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So I've been using Stockopedia for a good couple of years and it's awesome... Really good for analysing shares... but the one thing that it's poor at (IMO) is allowing you to understand when to place the particular share on the market. So I use ADVFN's level 2 and trades list to understand the right timing for placing my trade.

Another feature that is sadly lacking on Stockopedia is the ability to highlight words in the stock news like you can do in ADVFN eg:

So I can immediately jump to parts of an annual report based on a traffic light (ish) word highlighting. Makes reading reports way quicker!!

So as you can imagine I was continually jumping between Stockopedia & ADVFN tapping in stock codes and it was driving me nuts! So I wrote a chrome extension to make my life easier. Firstly it adds links within the stock header on stockopedia to allow me to just with one click open a new window directly onto the stock within ADVFN directly to the relevant page (level 2, trades, news etc):

Also when I read the news on Stockopedia it also highlights my keywords in various different colours:

At the moment I'm just using the chrome extension myself but I mentioned it to a friend and he was interested in it and I wondered if anyone else was interested in it too? If so I'll tidy it up a bit and publish it as a proper extension on the chrome store for anyone to download it for free.

A couple of caveats if you are interested. I generally only trade in UK stocks so it only passes the ticker name to ADVFN rather than the exchange and ticker. So (eg) if you were looking at the US stock salesforce.com (CRM) on Stockopedia and clicked the link you'd get "Carrs Mill"... wouldn't invest in that one :) Also Stockopedia could change something on the site that could break it so you'll have to wait for me to fix it before it will work again but it's easy to disable and won't stop Stockopedia from working.

So let me know if anyone is interested!

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UK_Investor_8888

22nd Jun '20

https://www.standard.co.uk/tec...

I won't be loading anything on my networks.

Investors Network Security is paramount.

This actually scares me silly: Anything that taps the PC an investor uses to do his banking on (PINs, Account Numbers, DoB, address, debit card details) could be catastrophic.

We are the No 1 targets for hackers and fraudsters, above that of OAPs.

uktraderdiary

23rd Jun '20

Yup completely agree. But it sounds like you don't separate your trading/banking access with your analysis/general PC usage etc? Then you know you have a physical or logical barrier between the two? As even using a browser and going to a dodgy website via an email could expose your trading systems to risk. I don't want to take that risk with any zero day hacks. I have a little Mac book air that I access the trading/online banking only and another for analysis and general work etc. You then know there is a physical barrier. Or if something is urgent remote in to the mac book air.

My rules:-

No cloud systems (strictly)
Complex Passwords
No Social Media
No Porn on work computers
No P2P or dodginess.
No Downloads
Windows Update blocked
CCTV around my house and by my computers
Red alarm light wired up to show if someone steps on to my property, all doors covered
Encrypted VPN access when out and about doing transactions

Never would I trust a company like Google, Apple, Microsoft, Samsung with my data or history!

Thanks, interesting, why would you block Windows update? Is that because you use a non-mainline browser (eg other than Chrome, Edge/IE etc)? Are these rules just for you "trading/online banking" machine or your analytics/general browsing machine? IE for argument's sake if you are ONLY using this Stockopedia web app you still have the risk of someone hacking Stockopedia or one of the services they use within this app (Bing, Facebook, Amazon AWS, Google APIs, Hotjar, DoubleClick, intercom, Google, site24x7.com etc) and inserting a dodgy script to exploit a windows weakness? I whitelist URLs at the router specifically for the trading machine but interested to know then how you get around say TLS or root certificate updates if you have windows update blocked? Do you update those manually?

Totally agree with the sites especially Samsung!!! Have you seen the amount of data they send from their TVS?! MENTAL!! One of the other reasons I whitelist on the router to block the huge amount of data coming from the TV!

Windows Update can be more destructive than not Windows Update.

I would rather do it at the time of my choosing. I consider it impertinent of MicroBastard to attempt to reboot my PC (unlawfully ultra vires) without my consent, losing often the work I have in progress.

And there's always the risk when you reboot or update one's PC that the damn thing doesn't come back... I've seen it happen to me.

I've found the PC by my bed has turned itself on sometimes in the middle of the night to download some MicroBastard crapware.

Easier to run "Windows Update Blocker" and then control when one does one's downloads... like Christmas Day or a day between jobs.

PS: Someone should prosecute MS under "The Computer Misuse Act 1990" for this.

Big Tech can't be trusted... with one's own data.

People wishing to hack Stockopedia… fill your boot if you must, but its not got access to any sensitive banking details and hopefully most of us here won't fall for the "I'm phoning from your banque" nonsense.

PS: Someone purporting to be from MS once phoned me "to help"... the clue was since when has MS ever shown concern for end users suffering. :-)

WarrantStar

Hi Radnipuk I may have completely misunderstood your post. But to me it sounds more like level 2 comes to your computer, rather than level 2 comes to stockopedia.

I heard a story that a big 100 company never paid Microsoft any money for licenses because they didn't agree with the licensing clause that Microsoft has the right to enter your premises to review your Microsoft licenses, but they were so big Microsoft still provided them with licenses and didn't want to remove the clause and then sent a president.

I think I'm a little more risk-averse on the updates. I have it as a manual update but do it quite soon after a Tuesday patch day to avoid being hit by a zero-day attack. Although my trading machine isn't Windows to hopefully make it more secure.

I got the same call. I actually recorded it and kept them on the phone as long as I could to stop them ringing someone else. I managed to get transferred from the gopher to the person who actually knew something but got found out quite quickly after that I wasn't doing what they wanted me to do.. I now have a VM running just waiting for the next call... although they have never phoned back.

:) Yup it's just essentially a mash of the two websites together to make it easier to navigate from Stockopedia to ADVFN so I don't have to be continually searching and click for stock codes between the two.

The Phoenix

Hi whats a VM ?

William K

They're insufferable. The smartest thing I ever did was get a MacBook Pro and I've never had to use Windows again. Expensive, but worth it. I'd never use anything else now.

Terry Dickens

Hi radnipuk

I like what you did. But would it be better if Stocko was to provide Leval 2, they have been talking about it of some time now. Perhaps we should with Ed a push, at least let us know if things are progressing.

Keep safe and may all your trade be profitable.

MiserableJacktPotato

A virtual machine. Another instance of an operating system that resides within the primary operating system's software.

Albo

24th Jun '20

Like you, I also use a third party website to view live prices (investing.com) and another third party website to trade (AJ Bell). The resultant being that I too am forever jumping screens.

Your tool sounds very useful, albeit I'm on a Mac OS and run safari.

Sounds like Stockopedia could easily and quickly incorporate part, if not all, of your upgrades into their base platform.

And yes please Stockopedia, level two live prices on here would be a godsend.

27th Jun '20

Yup, my trading machine is a mac... makes things a lot easier :)

Minotaur

31st Aug '20

Hi Radnipuk, that’s a very interesting (and smart!) approach. Do you have any details that you’d be prepared to share, please?

Thanks

Wellyboots

1st Oct '20

Hi Radnipuk, did you ever publish your chrome extension? I find it very inconvenient switching between ADVFN and Stockopedia too and would be interested in this, sounds like a great idea.

Thanks,

Maddox

Yes, sounds really useful - excellent suggestion.

Playtime

7th Oct '20

Great post but I have to say I hate everything about ADVFN. It’s extremely disorientating.

I feel that there are more pressing issues at hand.

On Stockpaedia, I would like to see shorter time periods for the charts down to at least 30 mins intervals and better charting tools.

Also many of the RNS reports are blank such as Golden Prospect etc. which is a bit frustrating so those need to be fixed

I also feel that Stockpaedia is fairly expensive if one wants to unlock various regions and there should be discounts on each further region one unlocks. 15% on the first, 25% on the second etc. It may encourage more people to use multiple territories and a win win for the company.

Level 2 comes to Stockopedia!!... kinda :)

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