Stockopedia Coverage

24th Jun '09 by Murakami

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Three questions to get the debate going on coverage on the site:

Generally, what other stocks, sectors, themes would you like us to cover beyond those that already feature on the site? At the moment, it's only AIM and LSE listed stocks.
Asking the question more specifically - if we could only cover, say, 3 international stockmarkets initially, which would you choose and what order of priority? For example: i) USA, ii) Germany and iii) Spain.
If we could only cover, say, 3 new investment markets outside of stocks, which would you choose and what order of priority, e.g. i) precious metal commodities, ii) UK bonds and iii) European currencies?

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marben100

24th Jun '09

For me personally:

Exchanges: Plus quoted; Australia (ASX); Canada (TSX) [I would like USA & HK too but you asked for 3 only :0)]

Instruments: Bonds; Options & futures (international)

Gradders73

24th Jun '09

I'd go for currencies (majors), government bonds and as many commodities as poss, also maybe an emerging markets sector?.

djpreston

24th Jun '09

Being as I'm more resource orientated, I'd answer: Markets: Canada and Australia and Hong Kong for Asian growth themes. I'd say plus was too small and illiquid for most people so more limited appeal? In the interests of wider coverage though, the US surely has to be there given the diversity that would offer across sectors etc? That would mean having to drop one of the others though....hmmm.... . Instruments - base and precious metals (counts as one?) Oil and gas (futures as well as spot) and UK bonds (even though many of the bonds I buy are US listed (at the moment). D

doverbeach

24th Jun '09

I agree with Darron's top 4 - US, Canada, Oz and HK.

no interest in anything apart from stocks

doverbeach

25th Jun '09

I would add that I think the important thing is to let discussion start on these stocks by starting threads on them and having wikis. I regard Spedia getting prices, financials and charts as massively less important. A one stop shop would be nice, but we can live without that! So the problem becomes how to identify the other markets EPICs in the system. Validating them would be nice, but I guess we can live without that too if people can ask the admins to correct any that are wrong!

I think getting this going could be a major plus point for Spedia. An integrated global bulletin board...

Murakami

25th Jun '09

In reply to doverbeach (post #5)

No promises on timing for any of this but, in the interest of brainstorming for the future, one option is to go down the path of initiating coverage on one new exchange (like, say, Australia) at a time, where we open up access to all stocks, with forums, wikis, prices, data, charts etc. We are interested in doing this but, realistically, this will take a long time and it's rather expensive.

Another (apparently faster and cheaper) possibility is that we might be able to initiate coverage on a set of, say, the 5000 (or more) largest global stocks (which would tend to be on the more developed exchanges but not always) where we would have the forums and the Wikis going on but based on a very limited set of data fields, like i) stock name, ii) shares outstanding, iii) sector (so we can fit them in the sector classifications), iv) country and v) CUSIP codes. Importantly, though we would not have a) ticker and b) price information for these stocks, at least not initially. We could add tickers as an input field but, realistically, we don't have the admin resources yet to deal with updating them. For this to work, we would have to rely on user assistance, perhaps by top contributors who were interested in that particular sector.

So, if there's enough interest in this kind of coverage, we could do it but there would have to be a lot of demand and commitment to the project from a sufficiently large group of members.

Our own view is that there needs to be more "proof of concept" for the UK market and the bugs ironed out first but we are interested to hear the views of others.

JPGH

26th Jun '09

I would like to see all O&G companies and O&G Service providers ...etc (NYSE, TSX, ASX, Oslo, + other exchanges) all "covered" under a single group, with a exchange filter for those who wish to look at/focus on partyicular exchanges. Not sure if its possible but would like to see it.

JPGH

doverbeach

26th Jun '09

In reply to Murakami (post #6)

Another (apparently faster and cheaper) possibility is that we might be able to initiate coverage on a set of, say, the 5000 (or more) largest global stocks (which would tend to be on the more developed exchanges but not always) where we would have the forums and the Wikis going on but based on a very limited set of data fields, like i) stock name, ii) shares outstanding, iii) sector (so we can fit them in the sector classifications), iv) country and v) CUSIP codes. Importantly, though we would not have a) ticker and b) price information for these stocks, at least not initially. We could add tickers as an input field but, realistically, we don't have the admin resources yet to deal with updating them. For this to work, we would have to rely on user assistance, perhaps by top contributors who were interested in that particular sector.

Sounds like a good idea in theory. CUSIPs - yuk! - haven't heard that term since I stopped work! But I see no problem with starting off with user input tickers and I am sure that a group of users could be formed to update them if any are wrong. And as I said earlier, we can live without prices at the start - possibly for a long while, although they would be very nice to have. (nb I am not sure if you calculate market cap your self, or get it from your data provider daily based on the previous close or something. If you are calculating it yourself, if you don't have market prices then you shouldn't display market cap you retrieved on stock initiation as it will be out of date.)

A more serious problem is that I am not sure the top 5000 stocks will include the resource stocks that the your current <keen> <unrepresentative> bunch of users is mainly interested in. Would it include say Extract Resources EXT on ASX? Or Dualex Energy DXE on Vancouver?

Would it be possible to look at user inputs for everything essential: name, ticker, sector as a short-term measure?

djpreston

26th Jun '09

Db - CUSIPs? errr dunno wt dey r and dont want to.... thats what the back office people are for ! ;-)

My reservation would be that the top 5000 would not include a ot fo the names that PIS (that typically post on BBs) woudl want to follow.

I fully understand, however, the cost implications of the coverage that we are discussing and it may well be that the focus is oon the UK (and user generated coverage of other intls) so ensure that Spedia is stable financially before layering on more costs.

marben100

26th Jun '09

I agree with the general thrust here: it is a big limitation, which will deter users, if only LSE and AIM stocks can be discussed. Many of the high quality posters on this site do trade/invest internationally and will be rather frustrated at the inability to discuss only LSE and AIM stocks. Given the cost and complexity of integrating data for such stocks, we really need a relatively quick & dirty work-around implemented for the meanwhile. How about this suggestion?:

Looking at the "sector" screen (eg http://www.stockopedia.com/sectors/constituents/Automobiles_and_Parts), there are tabs for "consitituents", "article", "forums" and "news"
Suggest we add an "other stocks" or "international stocks" tab (I say "other" to include Plus quoted, for example :0))
From that tab there would be an "add stock" function, which allows the user to enter an exchange code and stock ticker. These can actually be validated pretty easily using the Yahoo finance site, which also returns the stock name (mind you, that rules out Plus stocks!). I can provide some sample code that does that type of thing.
Once validated, the "other stock" is created
The "other stocks" tab would then list any such stocks that have been user-configured.
Next to each such "other stock" would be links to discussion threads and the wiki for that stock in the usual manner

If, at a later date, you decide to support any overseas exchanges fully, it shouldn't be too dificult to migrate the wikis & threads to the appropriate place.

HTH,

Mark

broker

22nd Nov '13

US stocks. Please, Please, Please!! Have you started this?

seasons

23rd Nov '13

+1 on US stocks. Very much :D.
Major currencies -- maybe.. I just dipped my toe so it's too early to say anything on that.

Murakami

23rd Nov '13

Hi All, the US is coming Q1 2014 - you can sign up for it here: http://stockopedia.us4.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=bd62eb752b5b6a832968161ea&id=67b46eae7f

Best,

M

intuitive6191

23rd Nov '13

Our own view is that there needs to be more "proof of concept" for the UK market and the bugs ironed out first

I couldnt agree more. Its far more important to get the existing product working first.

broker

2nd Dec '13

Great. I will be signing up as soon as the US data is out. Looking forward to it.

MadDutch

2nd Dec '13

I repeat my request for the dividend yields of ETFs, Exchange Traded Funds and I will become a fee paying member of Stockopedia when that information becomes available.

They are billed as ultra low cost, but I will not believe that until I can check whether the yield of a FTSE-100 tracker is the same as the official yield. I am most interested in Vanguards British market ETFs.

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