Newscasts - Trump, Starmer hold press conference

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18/09/2025 18:58

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>> Hello, audio check. One, two, audio check for press. One, two. One, two, three, four. Good afternoon. Audio check for press. One, two. One, two, three, four. Audio check one, two. One, two, three, four. I'm getting thumbs up. One, two, three, four, five, six. One, two. One, two. Check, check 1, 2, audio check for press. Left podium good. One, two, audio check, 1, 2, 3, 4, still good. Good. Everybody good. Thumbs up, 1, 2. All right. >> Mr. President, it's a pleasure to welcome you to Chequers. This historic second state visit is a moment to celebrate the unique bond between our two countries. But today, we've gone far beyond that. We've renewed the special relationship for a new era. The United Kingdom and the United States stand together today as first partners on defense, first partners in trade with the groundbreaking deal we struck in May, and now with a new agreement that we've just signed this afternoon. We're confirming our status as the first partners in science and technology, ready to define this century together just as we did the last. This tech partnership has the power to change lives. It's our chance to ensure that technologies like AI, quantum, and others amplify human potential. Solve problems, cure diseases, make us richer and freer, strengthen the cause of democracy, not tyranny. This is the territory on which the future will be one. So this partnership today is a signal of our determination to win this race together and to ensure it brings real benefits in jobs, in growth, in lower bills, to put more hard earned cash in people's pockets at the end of each month. That's what we're determined to deliver, and we're bringing businesses with us. We've just come from a fantastic meeting with business leaders where we set out this vision. They have responded with new deals and investment breaking every record that we have. Two hundred and fifty billion pounds flowing both ways across the Atlantic. That is a record, expected to create 15,000 jobs here in the United Kingdom, high-skilled jobs in cutting edge sectors where people can build careers for the long term, changing lives and communities up and down our country. And look, while we shape this bond for a new era, the fundamentals have not changed. Security remains the cornerstone of this special relationship. We have the deepest, most advanced defense relationship in the world. Our warriors train together and they fight together. Our industries build together, everything from fast jets to the new Astute class submarines. So now, as we drive up defense spending, we're going to sweep away the barriers to working together on new defense technologies so we can stay ahead of our adversaries. We're united in defense and security. Yes, absolutely. But we're also united in the pursuit of peace. We are working together to end the humanitarian catastrophe in the Middle East. Get the aid in, free the hostages, and ultimately bring Israel and the region back towards a comprehensive plan, which can deliver peace and security for Israelis and Palestinians alike. We're also working together to end the killing in Ukraine. In recent days, Putin has shown his true face mounting the biggest attacks since the evasion began with yet more bloodshed, yet more innocents killed, and unprecedented violations of NATO airspace. These are not the actions of someone who wants peace. So we've discussed today how we can build our defenses further, support Ukraine and decisively increase the pressure on Putin to get him to agree a peace deal that will last. And President Trump, you have led the way here, and we will continue to stand and work together for security and for peace. Mr. President, next year, we'll celebrate the 250th anniversary of the United States. We've come on a long journey together since 1776, but it's no exaggeration to say that the partnership our two nations have built has shaped the world, from the beaches of Normandy to the founding of NATO, to the creation of technologies that have revolutionized our lives. Time and time again, it is British and American men and women side by side, changing the path of history and turning it towards our values, towards freedom, democracy, and the rule of law. In Britain, we take huge pride in that. And let's be clear. This relationship is not just about history, it's about the future. It's about the benefits it delivers now and for decades to come to make our people safer and better off. We've shown today that we're delivering those benefits, improving people's lives. So we will go into that anniversary year, more optimistic than ever and more confident than ever about our two great nations and what they can achieve side by side. Thank you. And it is now my pleasure to give the floor to Mr. President. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Prime Minister Starmer, Melania and I are tremendously thankful for the wonderful hospitality that you and Lady Starmer have extended today at Chequers, I must say, quite the place. And we're grateful beyond words for the spectacular honor of the state visit yesterday at Windsor Castle, hosted by His Majesty, King Charles III and Her Majesty, Queen Camilla, these are two fantastic people. We will never forget it. As I said last night, the bond between our countries is like no other anywhere in the world. The United States and the United Kingdom have done more good on this planet than any two nations in human history. That is thanks in large part to the traditions of British liberty, which grew up on these beautiful, magnificent isles and were carried by our ancestors to the New World. We're forever joined and we are forever friends, and we will always be friends. This enduring connection is why I was thrilled that the United Kingdom was the very first country with which we made a historic trade deal and a very good trade deal. He's a tough negotiator. I think it was a better deal for you than us, but these are my details. >> It's a very good deal for both of us. >> He is a great negotiator who will extend our unparalleled security alliance into the realm of economic security for the first time, and I look forward to finalizing it very soon. We'll have it done very quickly. We have also just signed a historic technology prosperity deal, one of a kind to ensure our country's lead the next great technological revolution side by side. In fact, we just left the business leaders, the biggest in the world. Some are in this room right now. And that was quite a meeting we had on business and trade and technology. This trip has galvanized $350 billion in deals across many sectors, and we're committed to ensuring that the UK has a secure and reliable supply of the best AI hardware and software on Earth, and we supply that and we'll make sure we supply it in quantity to the UK. We also are joining forces on quantum computing and nuclear power, a natural partnership for close allies. The United States, as you probably have heard, is doing better than it has ever done in terms of business and investment. The stock market has hit a new high, as you know, and that's for many, many days out of our fairly short eight months, and we seem to be hitting new highs, and I think we're going to do much better even as time goes by. Jobs are at a record, and most importantly, we have more than $17 trillion, and this is during an eight month period being invested in the country which is not only a record, but if you compare $17 trillion to the last year of the Biden administration, they did $250 billion. They didn't do $1 trillion for the four year period. We did $17 trillion of investment coming in. A lot of it's because of tariffs and a lot of it's for a lot of other reasons, but there's never been anything like it. It's an economic superstar. That's what's become. I was mismanaged and badly handled for a long period of time, but it's not badly handled anymore. So that's a record. And remember, that's up until eight months. We have another few months to go, and that number is going to get significantly higher, especially if we win a certain case that we're waiting to hear, that will be something like the world has never seen. I want to congratulate the United Kingdom on making the vital commitment to spend 5% of GDP on defense at the NATO summit this year. We've worked together very closely in so many ways. I'm very honored to tell you that we've solved seven wars. Wars that were unsolvable, wars that couldn't be negotiated or done. The US has done seven of them. The one that I thought would be easiest would be because of my relationship with President Putin, but he's really let me down. Who's going to be Russia and Ukraine? But we'll see how that turns out. I thought it might be among the easiest of the group. But we settled just about every conflict, as you know, we're working very hard on Israel and Gaza. That's happening over there. Complex, but it's going to get done. It'll all get done right. And likewise, Russia and Ukraine will get done. But you never know in war. War is a different thing. Things happen that are very opposite of what you thought. You thought you were going to have an easy time or a hard time, and it turns out to be the reverse. As we saw in the unforgettable parade yesterday at Windsor Castle, what a place it is, the British Armed Forces carry on. One of the finest military traditions in the world, one of the greatest marching bands, one of the most magnificent sights I've seen. I know that our service members look forward, and we do look so forward to working even more closely with yours as you push toward that 5% goal. And I think, Mr. Prime Minister, you're just about there. You're going to be there very quickly. Along with a lot of other great countries. I want to thank NATO and our wonderful head of NATO has really worked very hard, Mark, for the job they've done. As you know, NATO is at 2% GDP, and they didn't pay it. Now, they're at 5%, then they pay it. And we appreciate that, and we're sending a lot of weapons to NATO. NATO is paying for those weapons in full. But we're sending them, and we're doing a great job at getting them what they need, and we appreciate the fact that they're taking care because the United States is into that war for $350 billion. And it's just really very sad. It just got out of control. They didn't know what they were doing. But over the generations, British and American warriors have shed their blood side by side in defensive liberty and freedom, and that's why it's so imperative that the United States and the United Kingdom stand together for these fundamental rights and values of the English-speaking world, and we've always stood together, and we will continue to. Just last week, a great American, Charlie Kirk was heinously assassinated for speaking his mind. He was a great young man. Credible future. Some people said he might be president someday. I told him. I said, Charlie, I think you have a good shot someday at being president. And he just wanted to take care of youths. He loved youths. I've never seen anybody relate to youths like Charlie, and they related to him, and they're devastated. But I appreciate the many British citizens who have offered their condolences. And again, Charlie was a great person. We'll be going out to a service on Sunday. I'll be leaving with some of the people in this room just to celebrate Charlie and all that he's done. So incredible. Never seen anything like it. But I hope that together our nations can lead a movement to defend the glorious traditions of freedom on both sides of the Atlantic. There could be no greater tribute to the immortal bonds of affection and loyalty that unite the British and the American people for all of time. We have a relationship like no other. It will always be that way. We will always be united, we'll always be together. And I just want to thank you, Mr. Prime Minister, for the great job I think you're doing. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much, Mr. President. We're going to take some questions. I'll call two or three to start with, and then I'll pass over to the president. I've got Chris Mason from the BBC first. Chris. >> Thank you, both. Chris Mason and BBC News. Mr. President, the UK is expected to recognize a Palestinian state in the coming days as the killing in Gaza continues. It often seems that you're the only person that Israel will listen to. What more can you say to them to tell them to stop? And why is the UK's position on a Palestinian state, in your view, wrong? And Prime Minister, what will the recognition of a Palestinian state actually achieve? Is it not just gesture politics to appease people in your own party? Thank you, both. >> Well, Chris, let me just start with that because we discussed this amongst other things. We had the best part of an hour, I think upstairs. Earlier today, just one-to-one going through a number of world affairs in private, and we absolutely agree on the need for peace and a roadmap because the situation in Gaza is intolerable. The hostages have been held for a very long time, and they must be freed, and we need aid to get into Gaza at speed. And so it's within that context of a plan for peace, which we're working hard on, which not only do we discussed this morning, but our two teams have been working together on. The question of recognition needs to be seen, and so it's part of that overall package, which hopefully, takes us from the appalling situation we're in now to the outcome of a safe and secure Israel, which we do not have, and a viable Palestinian state. Thank you. >> Well, simply, I want the hostages released right now. Not 1, 2, we'll give you three more tomorrow, like it's been. But we're the ones that got all the hostages released. We got many, many. Many came to the Oval Office, and I've heard stories like I've never thought even possible. There was no humanity, no anything. I said to them, was there any warmth shown during this stay they offered you a little extra meal? They gave you a little smile and they said, don't worry, you'll be okay. And every one of them said, not even a little bit. Amazing to think that during the long stay in some cases, we had a man the other day, 451 days he was there. I always asked that question. Was there any warmth shown, just a little word of encouragement. And the answer is every time, absolutely not. I'm shocked to hear it because in the worst cases, there's always somebody that comes through. We have to remember October 7th, one of the worst, most violent days in the history of the world, not just there, the history of the world. I got to see the tapes, and I wish I didn't see them, actually. But I got to see them. And I want an end. I want the hostages released, and I think it's going to be okay, but it has been a brutal period of time. But this has been going on for a long time. This is not something that's over the last year, two years, this has been for decades and decades. But we want it to end. We have to have the hostages back immediately. That's what the people of Israel want. They want them back. And we want the fighting to stop, and it's going to stop. But a lot of bad things. Hamas said that they're going to put the hostages up as bait They're going to put the hostages in front of any attack. And that's pretty brutal. We haven't heard that one in a long time. So we have to remember that. So I have a disagreement with the Prime Minister on that score. One of our few disagreements, actually. >> Great. Can I take Jack from The Sun? Jack. >> Thank you both. Jack Elson from The Sun. Mr. President, in the nine months you've been in office, you've been incredibly successful in all but eliminating crossings in your southern border. Meanwhile, illegal migration is at record levels in Britain. The Prime Minister is trying to tackle that. What advice would you give to the man standing next to you on trying to stop illegal migration in Britain? And Prime Minister, if I can just ask, the president is all about drill baby drill in terms of trying to secure American energy and cut bills for Americans. Meanwhile, you are turning Britain's back on oil and gas in favor of renewable energies such as wind turbines. Why do you think that you are right and he is wrong? >> So we have millions of people flowing in, totally unchecked, totally unvetted from the Biden administration, 25 million, in my opinion, that would be about 25 million, they came from prisons, they came from mental institutions. They were gang members, they were drug dealers. They came from the Congo. They came from all parts of South America. They came from everywhere. Think of it. Prisons from the Congo being released into the United States, prisons opened up in Venezuela, and many other countries pouring into the United States. And I couldn't believe it. One of the reasons I decided to run. I decided to run because I don't want to be controversial, but you see what's happened, and you see all the information that's come out. We won in 2020 big, and I said, let's run. We've got to run because I saw what was happening. We've already solved inflation. We've solved prices. Oil is way down, energy is way down in the United States. But what I saw happening with millions of people pouring into our country, I couldn't stand to watch it. And we've done a great job. I appreciate your question, by the way. Nobody absolutely zero, I'm not even sure that's possible, but it's a very liberal group that come out with those statistics. The last three months, from millions of people a year ago, we had zero people enter our country illegally, and we do have people coming in legally through a legal process and testing, and lots of other things. I think it's very important, and we speak about it. And I think your situation is very similar. You have people coming in. I told the Prime Minister I would stop it, and it doesn't matter if you call out the military, it doesn't matter what means you use, but it destroys countries from within, and we're actually now removing a lot of the people that came into our country. It's a very hard chore. We were given a very bad hand. Millions of people came in from prisons and mental institutions. We have to remove them, and we are removing them. We have no choice, and I feel very strongly about it. Thank you very much. >> Jack, let me just deal with the question of returns because this is obviously an issue we're taking incredibly seriously. We've struck a number of deals, both on cooperation with other countries, because this is a problem right across Europe, to tackle the problem of actually breaking up the gangs that are running this trade. We have had a record number of returns, over 35,000 now, since we came into office. That's the highest number for the best part of 10 years. We struck the returns arrangement with France, and notwithstanding the challenges to that scheme, which you've seen in the last few days, a flight went off at 6:15 this morning, successfully returning someone under that scheme. So that is an important step forward. Obviously, there's no silver bullet here. There's a range of things that need to be done. But given the challenges of returning people, it is important that we're able to prove it can be done. It was done early this morning, so I can confirm that flight went successfully, and I'm pleased about that. Now we need to ramp that at scale, which was always envisaged under the scheme, but it's very important that we have been able to prove the proof of concept, if you like, this can be done, and we'll continue in that way. On the question of energy, firstly, let me be really clear that I am absolutely determined to ensure that the price and cost of energy comes down so that bills come down both for individuals, for families with their household bills, but also for business because this is so important. The mix will include oil and gas for many years to come from the North Sea. We've been clear about that for some time, but we also need to mix that with renewables, and it's the mix that's really important. And the approach I've taken on this is the same approach that I take to so many other things, a pragmatic approach. Thank you, Jack. >> I would like to say that we inherited the worst inflation in the history of our country. We had inflation, the likes of which we've really never seen. They say 48 years, and I'll accept that, but I really don't. We had the worst inflation in the history of our country, and we had a expression that I used a lot, drill baby drill, as you know, we brought fuel way down. The price is way down. And we don't do wind because wind is a disaster. It's a very expensive joke, frankly. And we got our energy prices way down. That brought the inflation way down, and now we have very little inflation, and we have a very strong economy. So that was very important. Drill baby drill, and you have a great asset here, and we spoke about it. It's called the North Sea. The North Sea Oil is phenomenal. Because I love this country. My mother was born in Scotland and the Hebrides Stornoway that's Syria, Scotland. We were talking about it. I want this country to do well. And you have great assets that you're going to start using, I believe, under this Prime Minister. Thank you. >> Thank you. I've got Matthew from The Economist. Matthew. >> Thank you, Prime Minister. Mr. President, you say that President Putin has let you down. Have negotiations run out of road, and what are your next steps to compel an end to this war? >> Well, he has let me down. He's killing many people, and he's losing more people than he's killing. Frankly, Russian soldiers are being killed at a higher rate than the Ukrainian soldiers. But he said, let me down. I don't like to see. It's death. It doesn't affect the United States. We have other than, unless you end up in a world war over this thing. This was a thing that would have never happened had I been president. If I were president, it would have never happened, and it didn't happen for four years. Most people agree it didn't happen, nor was it close to happening. And I spoke to President Putin about Ukraine. It was the apple of his eye. I've said that many times, it was. But he would have never done what he did, except that he didn't respect the leadership of the United States. They just went through the Afghanistan total disaster for no reason whatsoever. We're going to leave Afghanistan, but we're going to leave it with strength and dignity, and we're going to keep Bagram, one of the biggest airbases in the world. We gave it to him for nothing. We're trying to get it back, by the way. That could be a little breaking news. We're trying to get it back because they need things from us. We want that base back. But one of the reasons we want the base is, as you know, it's an hour away from where China makes its nuclear weapons. So a lot of things are happening, but I am very disappointed in the fact that that one's not settled. To think that we settled Azerbaijan and Albania, as an example, it was going on for years. It was never going to be settled. If you remember, the Prime Minister and the presidents they were there for many years. They said, when they were in my office, we settled. And they started off at both sides of the Oval Office so far away. I didn't know you could be so far away. And as we were together for an hour, they kept getting closer. By the time we finished, we all hugged each other. And one said, I've been in this position for 22 years, and all I've done is kill their people. The other was there for seven years, and all he did was kill their people, and we got it settled, and we did others, as you know. The Congo, we did. We settled the Congo with Rwanda, that was going on. And that was a Machete war. That was a gruesome war. Many people, close to 10 million people killed. We got that, so my biggest disappointment, but look, we did seven and most of them were not thought to be settleable. We did India and we did Pakistan. That's two nuclear. That was purely for trade. You want to trade with us, you're going to have to get along. And they were going at it hot and heavy. But the Russia situation, I hope we're going to have some good news for you coming up. But again, it doesn't affect the United States. Look, it doesn't so much affect you. Of course, you are a lot closer to the scene than we are. We have a whole ocean separating us. But I will say this, millions of people have died in that war, millions of souls. And they're not American soldiers, mostly soldiers, as you know, the soldiers are being killed at levels that nobody's seen since the Second World War, but they're being killed, and I feel I have an obligation to get it settled for their reason. Thank you. >> And just to add on that question, because we have to put extra pressure on Putin, and it's only when the President has put pressure on Putin that he's actually shown any inclination to move. So we have to ramp that pressure up. I think it's important to have this conversation in the context of what's happened in recent weeks. We saw damage and bombing to the British Council in Kyiv. These are targets that it was thought until recently were not targets would be hit, the British Council, the European Union embassy. The Council of Ministers, where President Zelensky's ministers work, was hit. Again, these were thought to be places that wouldn't be hit, and then the incursion into Poland last week. And if you put that together, what you can see is either an emboldenment or at least an increased recklessness on Putin's part. That's why I said earlier that they're not the actions of someone who wants peace. So we have to ramp up, and we discussed earlier today, we have built the coalition of the willing with British leadership and French leadership, stepping up with military planning in the seas, in the sky, on the ground, and ramping up what we do with the Ukrainians themselves. And, of course, that taken with an American guarantee is now an example, I think, of the challenge of Europe stepping up to the plate, which it has done in the last few months to show through what we and the French have done that, we're prepared to take the lead in this and take the necessary measures. >> But that's a war. There could have been a Third World War, and I don't think we're going to be there now. But that was heading to a Third World War, and what a shame it is, >> Mr. President, do you want to call some of the others? >> I would love to call a few. Bev, do you want to have a question? >> I could come back. >> GB News. Thank you. Having been in DC for a few weeks, it's really interesting to see how you run the country as a proud Christian leader. And it really begs the question to the Prime Minister, if you don't mind, are we still a Christian country? >> When you say we, are you talking here? >> Here, the UK. I'm still British. I might live in America, but I'm still British. >> I'd rather have him answer that question. I can't give you that answer. >> That's for the Prime Minister. But also, despite what we talked about in Scotland a few weeks ago, we still have 12,000 people a year here being arrested for social media posts for free speech violations. Does that not remain an important area that there is still a lot of disagreement on? >> I'd like to have you answer. >> Look, in terms of a Christian country, I was Christian, so that my church has been all my life, and that is wired into our informal constitution. Of course, we celebrate many other faiths as well, and I'm really proud that we're able to do so as a country. On free speech, that has long lived in this country. Free speech it's one of the founding values of the United Kingdom, and we protect it jealously and fiercely and always will. And we will bear down on any limits on free speech. I draw a limit between free speech and the speech of those that want to peddle pedophilia, and suicide social media to children. And therefore, I'm all for free speech. I'm also for protecting children from things that will harm them, pedophiles, those that peddle suicide, which had a terrible consequence for individual, particularly teenagers. And so that's the balance we strike, but we have had freedom of speech in this country for a very long time, and we will always protect it. >> Thank you very much. Brian, please. >> Thank you. Prime Minister, it's good to see you again. You have a beautiful country. Thanks for having us. >> Thank you. >> I have two questions. One, just recently, President Trump labeled Antifa domestic terrorists. Would you consider doing something like that in your country? >> Well, we obviously will take decisions for ourselves. I don't want to comment on the decisions of the president, but we take our decisions ourselves. >> And my question to you, President Trump, is there any update on the auto pen? >> Yeah. It's just gotten worse from their standpoint. The people that used it, and in particular, one person, was never told by Biden to do it. Only spoke to Biden twice, and that was just talking about the weather, not talking about any order. And he was taking orders from people other than Joe Biden. Joe Biden wasn't giving those orders. Joe Biden didn't believe in open borders. He didn't. I've known him for a long time. He was never the brightest bulb in the ceiling, as we know. You can go back 40 years ago, and you'll see that. Go back and take a look at the hearings on Justice Thomas, and you'll see that very much. But he didn't believe in open borders and all of this nonsense that they're pedaling now, which is why they're not in office any longer. It's a shame. The auto pen was illegal. It was illegally used. He never gave the orders. He never told him what to do. And I guess the only one he signed, or one of the few he signed, was the pardon for his son. But you had the congressman who, when they got the information, they found out they were guilty, and they deleted and destroyed all information, everything. You couldn't get any of it. They found out that Nancy Pelosi actually was offered the 10,000 soldiers, and she turned them down. They found out many things that were very bad. So they deleted and destroyed all information. You talk about freedom of the press and freedom of speech. How about that one? And there's not a thing. This is after a year and a half of hearings. They destroyed everything. And somebody's got to be held responsible. So Biden, what he did is they knew I don't think he knew, but somebody knew I don't think Biden had a clue about anything, if you want to know the truth. But they gave a pardon to those Congresspeople. They gave a pardon. Those people are so guilty. They gave a pardon, but Biden didn't know about it. The people, whether it's Lisa or any of those people in there that really ran it, I know them all. And they're sick people. They're smart people. They're very smart. They're probably brilliant, but they're sick in ideology. And they were running the autopen. And it was totally illegal what he did. And I hope it's going to be so adjudged. >> You want to take one more than I'll take some part of it. >> Let's see. Pretty good. Thank you, President Trump. And the field that you're working on for the Chinese to sell TikTok to an American buyer. >> Yeah. >> Are the Americans going to have to come up with their own algorithm, or are they going to continue to use the successful but addictive Chinese algorithm? >> So what we're doing and we're speaking to President Xi on Friday to see if we can finalize something on TikTok. Because there is tremendous value, and I hate to give away value. But I like TikTok, it helped get me elected. In fact, Charlie said, Sir, you ought to get on TikTok. You'd be great. I said really? Tell me about TikTok. And as you know, we did unbelievably well with youth at a level that no Republican has ever even dreamt of. And then look, I think we won it for a lot of reasons. But that was a reason we won the election by such a big number. TikTok has tremendous value. The United States has that value in its hand because we're the ones that have to approve it. I specifically get the right to approve it. The people that are investing it are among the greatest investors in the world, the biggest, the richest, and they'll do a great job. We're doing it in conjunction with China, but the United States is getting a tremendous fee plus. I call it a fee plus for just making the deal. And I don't want to throw that out the window. I can say this, that you have a lot of very unhappy youth. And I use TikTok very legitimately, very straight statements. Every day I deliver statements, short statements. Sir, make it short, please. And TikTok Jack, we call them. It was pretty good. Did a good job for me, I guess. But no, I'd rather reap the benefits. I mean, the money we're talking about is very substantial. And it'll be owned by all American investors, and the best investors. And the very rich people, and companies are going to be owning it. Very straight, very legitimate countries, companies. And really, companies that love America. So they're going to be owning it. So it's a big thing. And on a much bigger scale, and probably that's why we were able to get that. But on a much bigger scale, we're pretty close to a deal. We may do an extension with China, but it's an extension based on the same terms that we have right now, which are pretty good terms. And my talk is for Prime Minister Starmer, if you feel so strongly about officially recognizing Palestine for statehood, why are you waiting for President Trump to leave the country? Why can't you just do it right now? And isn't there a risk in rewarding Hamas with that? >> Well, let me be really clear about Hamas. There is a terrorist organization that can have no part in any future governance in Palestine. What happened on October the 7th was the worst attack since the Holocaust. We have an extended family in Israel. I understand firsthand the psychological impact that had across Israel. So I know exactly where I stand in relation to Hamas. Hamas of course don't want two state solution. They don't want peace. They don't want a ceasefire. I'm very clear where I stand on Hamas. On the question of recognition, I made my position clear at the end of July as to the timing, which has got nothing to do with this state visit. And I've discussed it with the president as you would expect amongst two leaders who respect each other, and like each other, and want to bring about a better solution in the best way that we can. Thank you so much. Can I go back then to Robert at ITV? >> Robert Peston, ITV. Mr. President, uniquely, you alone the whole world, have the power to persuade Prime Minister Netanyahu to stop the demolition of Gaza City. To stop the starvation of Palestine, and to stop the killing of civilians. If not now, when will you exercise that power, and tell him to stop. And then for both of you. >> But you do understand about October 7? >> Of course [inaudible 01:08:06] believe me, I understand that. >> You do understand, one of the worst days in the history of humanity, what happened? I have seen the tapes. Babies that are four months old, and just jumped up to pieces, and you've seen the tapes, and I've seen the tapes. So you're a professional, and so am I. And people forget about October 7th. I can't forget about it. So I want it to end, but I want the hostages back. I don't want the hostages used as human shields, which is what Hamas is threatening to do. >> But as soon as they're back, that's the moment you will tell Netanyahu to stop. >> Well, it would certainly help, but I have to have the hostages back. And I don't want them back piecemeal, as I said before. I want them back. >> And on a separate issue, free speech. Your Vice President, Vance said that free speech is under attack in the UK. Do you agree with him? And Prime Minister we saw the dismissal of a very well-known chat show host in America, last night, Mr. Kimmel, is free speech more under attack in Britain or America? >> Well, Jimmy Kimmel was fired because he had bad ratings more than anything else. And he said a horrible thing about a great gentleman known as Charlie Kirk. And Jimmy Kimmel is not a talented person. He had very bad ratings, and they should have fired him a long time ago. So you can call that free speech or not. He was fired for lack of talent. Yeah, please go ahead. >> Firstly, on the question of Charlie Kirk. Can I just express how shocking that is, I think to everybody who believes in free speech and in democracy. And it sent shockwaves through the world. And I know that he was a friend of the president. And I reached out straight away to the president because I understood how impact will be on him and his family. And we all need to be absolutely clear about that. Whatever our political views, it is shocking, and is to be condemned. On free speech, I'll not much to add to the answer I gave earlier. This country has had free speech for a very long time. It is part of who we are as a country. And it is the values that we fought for. We fought for it during the Second World War alongside each other. So we need no reminding of the importance of free speech in this country. Thank you, Robert. I'll go to Beth for the final question. Please, Beth. >> Thank you. >> Berg, sorry. >> Thank you. It's Petra Bisconis. Thank you, Prime Minister. If I could start with you. Prime Minister, President Trump has said he's ready to impose lots of sanctions on Russia. If NATO countries stop purchasing Russian oil. He's got a point, hasn't he? Is that what you now believe is needed to bring Putin properly to the table? And watch your message to the president on US sanctions? And Mr. President, if I may, the king praised your personal commitment last night to finding solutions to the world's most intractable conflicts. You have invested much of your time and effort in Ukraine. But even as you seek to broker a deal, President Putin is escalating the war. He's firing drones into NATO airspace. You say he has let you down. Was it a mistake to invite him to Alaska? Do you regret it? >> No. >> Is it time to squeeze him, sir, and scare him, and impose sanctions? Finally, if I may, the elephant in the room, Lord Mandelson he is no longer the ambassador. Do you have some sympathy with him that he lost his job over historic links to Jeffrey Epstein? Thank you very much, sir. >> I don't know him. Actually, I had heard that. And I think maybe the Prime Minister would be better speaking of that. That was a choice that he made. And I don't know. What is your answer to that? >> Well, I mean, it's very straightforward. Some information came to light last week, which wasn't available when he was appointed. And I made a decision about it, that's very clear. On the question of the pressure on Putin in Russia, which is obviously really important. Look, I think it is a challenge to Europe. There are a number of European countries which are too reliant on energy from Russia. The UK actually obviously has almost got nothing at all. But we do need to bear down and work with our European counterparts to come here. There are one or two countries I think that do need to look again at the question of energy. There's no one silver bullet here. We do have to have a wider suite of sanctions, which we've put in place a number of times working across Europe, and with the United States. And of course, we must, and we are making sure that Ukraine is in the strongest position now. Because one of my long concerns here has been that whilst we talk about a ceasefire, and we want a ceasefire. And we talk about what might happen after a ceasefire. We mustn't forget that Ukraine needs our support now. We've said we stand with Ukraine from the start to finish. And that means we must continue to supply them with what they need in order to fight this war, which of course resulted from, and is a result of Russian aggression. We have particularly done the leadership role in the coalition of the willing so that if there is a ceasefire, and if there is a deal, and I do hope there is, that is then lasting, and not then broken. Because given previous history, I don't trust Putin. Thank you. >> Very simply, if the price of oil comes down, Putin's going to drop out. He's going to have no choice. He's going to drop out of that war. And when I found out that the European nations were buying oil from Russia, and as you know, I'm very close to India. I'm very close to the Prime Minister of India. I spoke to him the other day, wished him a happy birthday. We have a very good relationship. People had had a beautiful statement, too. But I said, I sanctioned them. China is paying a very large tariff right now to the United States. But I'm willing to do other things, but not when the people that I'm fighting for are buying oil from Russia. If the oil price comes down very simply, Russia will settle. And the oil price is way down. We got it way down. We're drilling, and we produce more oil than anybody else in the world. We're doing a lot. But I was disappointed to see that, and the Prime Minister was disappointed to see that. And it wasn't him, it was other countries. And you can't do that. You can't, that's not playing fair with the United States, and we can't have that. >> Thank you very much indeed. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Good job, Mike [inaudible 01:15:51] breathing. >> I like having, in my hand, the stick. It looked good, though. >> Is that where you're going to? >> I'm not going anywhere. >> You just can't see at the front. >> March forward. >> Thanks so much. You're so much fun. >> Absolutely, I'm looking for bass and transmission in a second. >> I got a gallery car. [inaudible 02:16:46] [BACKGROUND] bass. [BACKGROUND] Play, clay. Wonderful. I think the gallery [inaudible 02:17:52] that's what I [BACKGROUND] >> Yes. [inaudible 02:19:28] You sure you want to that? >> Yes [inaudible 02:19:52]. I want to do. >> You. Want [inaudible 02:19:55]. >> Do they want one for the other two? All right. >> You, yes. [BACKGROUND] >> Yes. >> What is the lecture I start on Monday? BACKGROUND] >> Yes, [inaudible 02:22:53]. >> That's the one adventure. >> Water show? Is that a picture? It's one I've got to. >> One of them >> That plays out on the Prime chest. [inaudible 02:23:21] >> It's crisps. Angry. [inaudible 02:23:38] >> Just a biscuit. [inaudible 02:23:47] >> That's a moment. [LAUGHTER] >> Yes. >> That's why I[BACKGROUND] I was rocking on it. That's what a you are, you're doing. Kept doing. Huh? Yes. >> You think you still talking into the immigration stop. >> Yes. >> It didn't matter that I wasn't called, Beb was in there. Wearing her voice in the past. >> I was saying [inaudible 02:26:49] it's not about that [inaudible 02:27:02] >> I hate that. >> That's what I hate, really pissed me off. [inaudible 02:27:07] [BACKGROUND] >> I thought that book was there. Your first point on the small boat that was most resonant, the president said, You have been coming in. I told the PM I would stop it. Donald Trump told Take Sama. And it doesn't matter if you can call out the military. It does matter what means you use, but it destroys countries from within. And now we're removing the people that came into the country in the US. That's what he means there. He's very clear. Why not call out the military? Listen to what I have to say [BACKGROUND]. I went too soon to that. Sorry. [inaudible 02:28:57], I thought that. Sorry, Darryl. I'll pick up. >> Yes. That's fine. Darryl wasn't there. I won't on for you. That's a lesson now in controlling this Mor Bach crisis on the very day that one person, of Indian origin, was sent back to France, and that was billed, of course, by [inaudible 02:29:28] as his scheme working. Also, on the issue of wind farms, you have to we know he hates them. Donald Trump not a big fan. Wind is a very expensive joke, he said. We have a very good asset. He says in the UK, it's called the North Sea, didn't he? He made very clear North Sea oil is phenomenal. He said, My mother was born in Scotland in the Hebrides that's serious. It's serious Scotland we're talking about. I want this country to do well. He loves this country. That's very clear from what you're saying, Dan. In fact, the entire visit, he looked past, deeply moved, Martin. You saw him, of course, in Windsor yesterday when he met the king and the Queen. You have great assets, he said, You start using, I believe, under this Prime Minister drill baby drill. He told our Prime Minister. Also, Putin, Vladimir Putin over Ukraine has really let me down. I think it looks like we're seeing Donald Trump come back to where the UK has been for many months now. He's killing many people, and he's losing more pod than he's killing. I mean, Russian thank you, Russian soldiers are being killed at a higher rate than the Ukrainian soldiers, and that is the concern, the clear concern. And that question from Bev Turner on faith, we heard a response, [inaudible 02:30:36] saying, I'm a Christian. I was christened, although he does, of course, observe the Jewish faith on Fridays. Interesting to him talk about his faith, which you haven't heard before from this Prime Minister. Overall, though, this visit, the way of the pomp and circumstance, Martin is about trade, is about jobs in this country. 250 billion pounds worth of trade deals agreed. We've always been friends. Donald Trump said he cursed [inaudible 02:31:01] a tough guy who got a better he would have got. That was tonight by as Dharma, but we're seeing an economic security deal signed soon, as well as this 250 billion pound tech deal. Clearly, the special relationship is moving out of defense and security and into trade and jobs. Again, it goes back to where is our role in the world? Are we going towards the European Union or the US? Feels now today in checkers like it's the US. [BACKGROUND] >> A bus [inaudible 02:31:40] Well, quite. >> That's a great question unanswered. I mean, we heard from the Prime Minister saying that around 6:00 PM. Today, the first flight took off taking a single migrant arrived here in August, back to France. As migrant, we understand was originally from India, wit to India. Well, we came here from France, so it's a French problem now. But yeah, if you step back, why can't we see firm action involving the military? Mija Farrar's reform, UK leader, has said as much, that the US is in charge of policy reform. He has said as much. America is not tied into the European Convention on Human Rights, the right Article 8, the rights of family lives. That is one of the reasons why do we have our efforts to take migrants back to the continent and frustrated. He hasn't got that problem in America. He's willing to use the military in ways we wouldn't enforcing a land border. We've got a sea border. That's harder to enforce. But yes, lessons here. I think for the Prime Minister from the president. Note that guy there, Don Trump, he loved this country. He's proud of his roots to Scotland through his mother. He loves coming here. He's the Anglophile President. That's a great thing for this country and helps us with getting those deals done. Investment in AI on quantum, that we heard earlier from Donald Trump. But definitely a lesson there throwing off a Jekyll's kissed armor and stop those boats because, in my view, if he can't stop those boats, that'll be the single reason why he might lose the next general election. [POOR AUDIO SECTION - START] [POOR AUDIO SECTION - END] >> You came back to search. >> But, I mean, so I had my mic on my lap, which dropped with that. But that was meant to get our branding into it. Wave it around.