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Daily Stock Market Report (Fri 31 Jan 2025) - VNET, TRB, AVON, TUNE, SMIN, BBOX

Good morning! We have a section from Mark on Vianet to kick us off today

1.05pm: I've run out of time, have a fantastic weekend everyone. And thanks for all the constructive feedback in the comments in the last few days - plenty to ruminate on!


Companies Reporting

Name (Mkt Cap)RNSSummaryOur view (Author)

Smiths (LON:SMIN) (£6.4bn)

Strategic Update

Focusing on John Crane/Flex-Tek. Other businesses to be divested or demerged. £500m buyback.AMBER/GREEN (Graham)
I like it when companies simplify. Also there is great shareholder orientation on display with the company using its strong balance sheet to enrich shareholders as much as possible.

Tritax Big Box REIT (LON:BBOX) (£3.5bn)

TU

Contracted rent increases by £22.7m. LTV falls to 29%. Enters 2025 with confidence.AMBER/GREEN (Graham)
A pleasant increase in annual contracted rents, coming from both rent reviews and new developments. I don't see anything to dislike and the shares trade at a 20% discount to book value.

James Halstead (LON:JHD) (£736m)

TU

H1 sales are slightly below last year. PBT comparable. Full year PBT expectations are in line.

Avon Technologies (LON:AVON) (£441m)

AGM Statement

In line.AMBER/RED (Graham)
Nothing too objectionable here but shares are already pricing in a good deal of success over the new few years. Has the potential to grow into its market cap.

Alliance Pharma (LON:APH) (£331m)

TU

“The Board continues to anticipate that underlying Group profit in FY 2024 will be in line with FY 2023.”

PINK
(Takeover planned at 62.5p).

Focusrite (LON:TUNE) (£123m)

AGM TU

Content Creation division: channel de-stocking in H1, expected H2 weighting. Audio Reproduction: headwinds in a softening market.AMBER (Graham)
Statement fails to indicate the full-year outlook vs. expectations. Superficially offers value. Profit warning risk.

Tribal (LON:TRB) (£84m)

TU

FY24 revenue ahead, adj. EBITDA substantially ahead of exps. Continued ARR growth for FY25.AMBER/GREEN (Graham)
We've been AMBER/GREEN on this before. Looks interesting on valuation against ARR. Overall growth will be held back in short-term but could improve again from 2026.

Maintel Holdings (LON:MAI) (£40m)

TU

Rev £97.9m (below exp?), EBITDA £10.5m “broadly in line”. Outlook: revenue warning for 2025.

Ground Rents Income Fund (LON:GRIO) (£30m)

Response to possible offer

37.5p “materially undervalues” the company. PUSU deadline is 5th Feb, extension not granted.

Oncimmune Holdings (LON:ONC) (£14m)

TU

Revenue warning for FY August 2025. £4m expected. Seeks finance to extend cash runway.

Vianet (LON:VNET)

Down 11% yesterday to 90p - Trading Update - Mark - AMBER/RED

Weakness in the hospitality sector is affecting profits here, as they say:

The Board now expects revenue for FY25 to be approximately £15.7million (FY24 £15.2m) and EBITA to be approximately £3.6million (FY24 £3.5m).

This makes quite a big difference to EPS, with Cavendish now forecasting 2.8p for FY25, some 55% lower than previously. They also take the axe to 2026 estimates, cutting those down by 47% to 3.5p. So, this appears to be more than a one-off issue.

Even after yesterday's 11% fall, this now trades on 26x 2026 Earnings, which seems far too high. Prior to this update, the algorithms weren’t too critical of the company:

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But this is mainly due to the unrealistic forecasts and that the company managed to get itself categorised in the Software and IT Services industry by describing itself as:

[an] international provider of actionable data, business insights, and payment solutions through an integrated ecosystem of connected hardware devices, software platforms and smart insights portals

The reality appears to be that they provide PoS for vending machines, plus their core business of beer flow monitoring. Pub chains pay for the latter to make sure their tied estate doesn’t sell other beers. While they may have data backends, customers probably don’t buy the products for the data but for the core functionality.

Management don’t seem to be concerned with paying 26x earnings for the shares, with Chairman and CEO, James Dickson buying £22k worth of shares on Thursday morning. However, he does have the value of his £4.6m worth of shares to protect. Only being encumbered with about £300k of shares, CFO Mark Foster has been far more circumspect and only managed to find £4.5k to invest this morning, or 1.6% of his FY24 total pay packet.

Mark’s view

In November, Graham said, “Vianet strikes me as being quite expensive and probably overvalued, but that’s all.” It looks even more so today, and would need to trade at about a third of the current price to make it an interesting proposition for me to look into further. AMBER/RED


Graham's Section

Tribal (LON:TRB)

Up 13% to 44.25p (£95m) - Trading Update - Graham - AMBER/GREEN

Tribal (AIM: TRB), a leading provider of software and services to the international education market, is pleased to provide an update on trading for the year ended 31 December 2024…

Some very nice news this morning:

  • Revenue ahead of market expectations (£85.6m)

  • Adj. EBITDA substantially ahead of market expectations (£14.4m)

  • Net debt of £3.2m is “well ahead” of expectations (£9.4m)

The £6m difference between actual net debt and expected net debt stands out to me - a very big difference for a company with a market cap of less than £100m. I wonder if there are some one-off items involved, such as receivables having been paid faster than anticipated?

ARR in the Core business is up 9% to £54.8m, “more than offsetting the anticipated ongoing decline in non-core business ARR”.

Outlook: FY24’s performance provides “a strengthened foundation as the business enters FY25”:

Whilst new customer generation was slower in FY24 than in prior years, the Group has a growing pipeline across the business, an effective cloud strategy, and continued ARR growth projected for FY25.

Estimates

Thanks to Singers for publishing revised forecasts this morning.

2024 revenue is now anticipated at £90m, with adj. EBITDA at £16m.

For 2025, the loss of non-core revenue is going to drag on revenue growth and so the revenue forecast for 2025 is flat at £90m again. Adj. EBITDA is expected to fall back to £14.5m. Singers suggest that growth will pick up again in 2026 as non-core revenue shrinks away to zero, and that the shares are attractive on a 2-3 year view.

Graham’s view

I think our existing AMBER/GREEN stance makes a lot of sense here.

Tribal claims that its “Student Information Systems” is the number one provider of this type of service to universities in Australia, New Zealand and the UK, and I can imagine why this might help to make it an attractive takeover target (a US company offered 74p per share last year, but shareholders rejected it).

Financially, an ARR of £54.8m for software should normally, I think, be valued at a much higher multiple than Tribal’s <£100m market cap suggests.

The balance sheet has been weak here in the past but the net debt figure announced today seems very low. That said, I do expect that TRB's balance sheet as of Dec 2024 will once again have a deeply negative net tangible asset value. But perhaps that is not a huge problem in this case.

Overall, I think this looks interesting. I don’t have more conviction in it because I don’t know enough about their other software products and services, but I do agree with the broker that this looks potentially quite attractive.

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In general, I always think it’s worth taking a second look when parts of a business are shrinking and parts of it are growing, as in the case of TRB and its “Core” vs “non-core” activities.

If the part that is shrinking is sold off, or is simply allowed to shrink until it no longer has much influence on the results for the group as a whole, you get a nice situation where the financial performance of the overall group can predictably improve. Investors who watch out for this can, I think, spot the opportunity early and predict the improvement earlier than others. Maybe this could be one of those cases?


Avon Technologies (LON:AVON)

Up 2% to £15.08 (£456m) - AGM Statement - Graham - AMBER/RED

We have a brief AGM statement from AVON.

Q1 trading is in line and the outlook for the full year is “consistent with guidance given” at the FY24 results in November.

Megan looked at this in November and was AMBER/RED on valuation grounds.

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Checking the forecasts published by Zeus in December, I see that adj. PBT is anticipated to rise significantly from £27m (FY Sep 2025 forecast) to £37.9m (FY Sep 2027 forecast).

Zeus, not known for their bearishness, said that the valuation at the time (share price £14.40) was looking “full”.

With both Megan and Zeus warning me that this stock is expensive, I’m going to leave our AMBER/RED stance unchanged.

That said, if the company hits future targets (and today’s update brings us that little bit closer), then AVON has the potential to grow into this market cap. Perhaps detailed research could give an investor conviction in the company’s plans.

But based on a brief review, I think AMBER/RED here is fair enough.


Focusrite (LON:TUNE)

Down 6% to 197p (£117m) - AGM Statement and Trading Update - Graham - AMBER

Focusrite plc (AIM: TUNE), the global music and audio products group supplying hardware and software used by professional and amateur musicians and the entertainment industry, will today hold its Annual General Meeting…

This is a really frustrating update as the company skirts around the key question.

I’m not surprised that investors have responded by selling the shares.

It starts by saying:

Overall the Group's trading for the first six months of the current period is expected to be in line with the Board's expectations.

That’s fair enough, but investors really care about the performance for an entire orbit of the sun, not performance over half an orbit.

Surely the company will tell us if the outlook for the year is still in line with expectations?

They continue:

Within the Content Creation division… the Group's trading has seen underlying end-user registrations remain strong… Owing to planned ongoing channel de-stocking in the first six months of the period, performance for the first 12 months is anticipated to be weighted towards the second half when the current de-stocking trend in the US is expected to ease.

TUNE have talked about de-stocking before, so this is an ongoing issue, but hopefully they are right that it will ease in H2!

Now, will they tell us that the full-year outlook is in line with expectations?

No, first they need to tell us about the other division:

Our Audio Reproduction division is experiencing headwinds in a softening market following a post Covid boost, as indicated at the FY24 results. Our order pipeline remains strong, enhanced by a much broader product portfolio than in prior years.

That sounds moderately negative, but the company did say in its full year results that “all industry data points to the market normalising over the coming year”.

So I guess the normalisation is happening as expected? And the full-year outlook is in line, then?

We’ll never know:

Both our divisions remain focused on managing costs, maximising gross margins, and investing selectively to support future growth."

Graham’s view

This update is a missed opportunity to say that the company is on track to meet market expectations for the full year, which are revenue of £161m and net profit of c. £10m.

Superficially this stock does offer some value at current levels but I’m worried that it may have another profit warning in it, and I think it could communicate more effectively with us. So I am leaving our neutral stance unchanged.

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Smiths (LON:SMIN)

Up 11.5% to £20.80 (£7.1bn) - Strategic Update - Graham - AMBER/GREEN

Thanks to Jeff for requesting this.

SMIN was “only” worth £6.4bn last night. The market loves this announcement.

We have never discussed this stock before as it is too large and not the type of stock that private investors tend to take much interest in. But given the importance of today’s news, it justifies a mention.

The group will be greatly simplified but before we get into that, here is an overview of its divisions I’ve gleaned from last year’s full-year results.

John Crane, a global leader in mission-critical technologies for the energy and process industries and an innovator in rotating equipment: revenue £1.1bn, headline operating profit £263m.

Flex-Tek, a global provider of engineered components that heat and move liquids and gases for the construction, industrial and aerospace markets: revenue £786m, headline operating profit £161m.

Smiths Detection, a global leader in threat detection and screening technologies for aviation, ports and borders, urban security and defence: revenue £859m, headline operating profit £102m.

Smiths Interconnect, a leading provider of high reliability connectivity products and solutions serving segments of aerospace and defence, medical, semiconductor test and industrial markets: revenue £354m, headline operating profit £49m.

Today’s announcement

SMIN will focus on John Crane and Flex-Tek, describing what they do as “high performance industrial technologies for efficient flow and heat management”.

Smiths Interconnect will be sold, targeting a deal by the end of 2025.

Smiths Detection will be demerged or sold, after the sale of Sminths Interconnect.

Buybacks: the £150m share buyback is increased to £500m.

Checking the final results statement again, I see that the group had a leverage multiple of only 0.3x, i.e. it was hardly leveraged at all. The net debt figure was £213m (vs. adjusted operating profit of £526m). So I would presume that the company can afford to do this buyback.

Furthermore, “a large portion of all disposal proceeds” will be returned to shareholders, in addition to this £500m buyback. But perhaps the disposal proceeds might also be returned in the form of dividends?

The CEO, who was appointed last year, has this to say:

…the Board has spent considerable time evaluating the options to maximise shareholder value and address the persistent discount to the significant value embedded within the Group.
"We start from a position of strength and as we execute this strategy, we will become a more focused business with significant potential for future growth and value creation. Focusing on our world-class John Crane and Flex-Tek businesses and carefully managing the separation of Smiths Interconnect and Smiths Detection, we will deliver significant value for all stakeholders.

Graham’s view

This is a major change for a company that is the better part of 200 years old (174 years, to be precise).

In principle, I’m all for companies simplifying their structures. I don’t think anybody believes in the idea of the “conglomerate” any more, either from a business or an investment perspective. Investors certainly prefer to understand what they are buying and be able to value it using one method, rather than trying to value it on a sum of parts basis.

It does appear that John Crane and Flex-Tek have more in common with each other than they do with the other two divisions. It’s hard to imagine that there are valuable synergies between Smiths Detection and the others, for example.

Therefore, I applaud this decision, and I applaud the shareholder orientation that (in my view, perhaps controversially?) is demonstrated by the scale of the potential buybacks we could see here.

I’m AMBER/GREEN on this. The Stocks really like it, too:

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Let’s hope that buyers accept the invitation to bid for the Detection/Interconnect businesses. The valuations they might attract are the great unknowns here.


Tritax Big Box REIT (LON:BBOX)

Up 1% to 144.5p (£3.6bn) - FY24 Trading Update - Graham - AMBER/GREEN

Thanks to boringchess for requesting this.

In general I don’t cover REITs and investment trusts, although I would like to - it’s just a matter of time constraints.

If you’re interested, I recommend that you check out the regular thread posted by Charles Mitchell. The latest one is here.

Tritax is “one of the biggest providers of critical chain supply infrastructure” - it has a very large estate of distribution warehouses.

According to its last set of interim results, contracted annual rents were £303m, an increase of £8m for H1.

Today’s full-year update says that there has now been a total increase of £22.7m in contracted rents for the year.

This is broken down as follows:

  • £11.6m from active management - rent reviews and other initiatives.

  • £11.1m from development lettings - pre-lettings and pre-sales of new developments.

Data centres: Tritax are working on their first data centre development and now have a data centre pipeline.

Disposals: over £300m worth of disposals, mostly from their “non-strategic” portfolio (this portfolio is worth less than 5% of total assets).

Sales from their logistics portfolio occurred at a small (3.3%) premium to book value.

Balance sheet: moderate leverage with a 29% LTV and a modest cost of debt (3.1%).

CEO comment:

"We are delivering and enhancing performance across all aspects of our business as we make excellent progress implementing our strategy. In line with guidance, we saw an uptick in activity in H2 2024, most notably securing one of the UK's largest pre-lets of the year of nearly 1 million sq ft to a global leader in ecommerce…
"We enter 2025 with growing confidence, driven by improving occupational market conditions, our expanded range of growth drivers - which now include highly accretive data centre developments - and enabled by ongoing investment in our high-calibre team, dedicated to achieving continued success for Tritax Big Box."

Graham’s view

Checking the interim results, I see official net assets per share of 177p (effectively 100% tangible).

Under the accounting conventions used in the real estate industry, net tangible asset per share is about the same, 179p.

The shares trade at a 20% discount to this.

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Overall, I don’t see anything to dislike here. Modest leverage, some disposals taking place at a small premium to book value, the shares trading at a useful discount, and an opportunity in data centres.

REITs can’t be expected to beat the market, except in cases where they are taking quite a lot of financial risk. But the returns from a solid REIT can be a reassuring part of a portfolio which is otherwise taking more adventurous bets. BBOX looks like it might be able to offer that sort of solid return. Maybe if you have a strong view on the outlook for distribution warehouses, you might take a stronger view.

I’m moderately positive on this.

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Avatar for Harry Hindsight

In a tech sector world, real companies doing real things and being stamped on. 

James Halstead (LON:JHD) floor coverings - principally 'Polyflor' a product in every social housing bathroom, hospital, office & warehouse. 

ER - no not nowadays. It used to be an oil based product 'linoleum' which lasted for 50 years and was anti-microbial - what happened to them - plastic turned up and killed it off? 

Polyflor a 'go to' product out there, none other but outside of fund squeezed social housing budgets who will put it into their house over say cheaper wood effect laminates which the DIY'er can do him/her self. 

Not DYOR so don't know what else in the toolbox but a Great British company for sure. 

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Is there a way to see historic p/e ratios (and other ratios if available) from within the Stocko database? Eg I want to know average historic p/e for Fevertree Drinks (LON:FEVR) by year

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If you hit the Print tab at the top of the StockReport you will see a series of dates underneath allowing you to see historical data.

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About half way down every stockreport there are  five little charts which include historic PE ratio & yield.

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Some interesting views by Paul Scott, regarding trading updates, he is saying, many of them are misleading or inaccurate. You need to check the broker forecasts to see if they tie up. It may explain some of the price movements on the day.

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AI I've been a long-term sceptic. So, there was a big hoo-haa about DeepSeek recently. For the first time in my life I decided to dip my toe in. I thought I'd share what I discovered.

There's a program called "ollama" that interacts with "models". There are plenty of models out there, one of them being DeepSeek. There's more than one DeepSeek, too. Using ollama it is easy to install many models from many different sources.

I chose "deepseek-r1:1.5b". This involved downloading 1.1GB of data. I'm still trying to figure it all out, but the "b" is important. It tells, in general, how many "parameters" the model uses, assuming I've got that right. So 1.5b means 1.5 billion parameters. More parameters, the better the model will behave, but the bigger it will be in purse disk space (have fun loading a big model!), and the slower it will be.

So I start my adventure in AI by typing "ollama run deepseek-r1:1.5b" on the Linux command line. You can use Windows if you like, but where's the leetness in that? Pfft, n00b.

You get shown a "command prompt", which is a line you can type your question on. A fairly standard question to ask is "why is the sky blue?"

I did that, and it returned "The blue color of the sky is called **turbulence** and is caused by light
scattering off tiny particles in the air. Specifically, sunlight passes ..."

OK, let's ask some investing questions: "What are the best UK stocks to buy right now?" It responded

"As of my last update in July 2024, I don't have real-time data access. For
the most accurate and up-to-date information on which UK stocks to invest
in, please check with financial news websites, stock market apps, or
reliable financial services. They can provide detailed analysis and
rankings based on current market conditions."

You're actually better off asking that sort of question on Grok, on your Twitter account.

I found deepseek to be poor at answering specific technical questions. It goes off at a tangent and misses the point. Better models are likely to produce better results. 

I wondered if more tailored models could be created for more tailored problems. There appears to be two mechanisms for doing this: RAG (Retrieval Augmented Generation), and I think the other one is called "custom". "Custom" is easier: on some things you just drag a PDF somewhere and it will use that for the current session only. RAG is more sophisticated, whereby it incorporates the new information into its AI.

At least that's what I can make of things so far. I've literally just had like 30 minutes of playing with it, but I thought it worth telling you guys so you get a gist of things from a potential investment viewpoint.

Hope that helps. If I discover anything more, I'll let you know.

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I've used models to help with coding. qwen2.5-coder:32b 20GB locally and GPT-4o via duckduckgo. Locally I asked it to provide a python script to get me a list of S&Ptickers into a txt file and the duckduckgo I ask it to provide some python to process a TCPDump and also output from a Wireguard connection to let me know what IP addresses were trying to connect to the Wireguard server. With some tweaks, both scripts are now running.

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Que? 

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I think what he's saying is that qwen2.5-coder is a model tailored towards programmers. It can answer programming questions.

Amazing! I asked "How do I reverse an array of integers in C?" It actually spat a correct answer. It wasn't quite optimal, but I'd be happy enough with it.

I asked the same question to deepseek. It waffled on a bit - oh how it waffled - but eventually did give me a function that would likely to run a bit faster. It did use a "swap" function, mind, which C doesn't have.

We perhaps shouldn't judge too harshly. ChatGPT is likely to have had a lot of training, and the version of deepseek I used it more generalist and smaller so I was undoubtedly expecting too much.

There is a site called Stack Exchange that provides answers to technical questions such as this. It seems to have been acquired for $1.8b. Having tried ChatGPT and Stack Exchange, I'd say that the latter's business model has just been rendered obsolete. There were a number of problems with it beforehand. Now it's got even more problems.
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Love the tech guys doing their stuff.  Grandad - what does this mean - have no clue buy re-insurance companies and gold and learn Mandarin :)

All relies on Data.

Shares to its credit highlighted London Stock Exchange (LON:LSEG) who create and hold the data on our Stockmarket and the Russell Indexes. 

Of course they are not alone so Bloomberg and S&P Global are out there and others.

Data 'holders' are also important - the cloud storage and infrastructure guys - this is Alphabet, Amazon, Meta and Microsoft.  

Something the PRC covets. Funny DeepSeek turned up close to the Stargate venture announcement. And do not search Tiananmen etc  - data censorship, like the old Twitter.  

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Cool beans. 20G is a bit bigger than I wanted to download, but I did try ChatGPT via duckduckgo. It was actually pretty good at giving a response. Quite neat, actually.

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Gemini advanced Deep research is pretty good. Deep search is shallow in comparison I find.

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Cavendish Financial (LON:CAV) - Non exec chair buys £48.6k worth. Mkt cap £34m, cash balance in November was £23m.

Interim update:

- Revenues of £27.7m increasing 42% vs the same period last year (H1'24: £19.5m)

- Interim dividend of 0.3p per share, reflecting profitable performance during the period and confidence in performance for the full year.

Stocko classifies it as a Contrarian play. 

I have nibbled today

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DPP - Domino's Pizza Poland PLC: currently 9.83p this stock is looking to break into profit this year.  

Board - Nils Gornall is a veteran of Domino’s with 28 years of operational experience. Nils joined DPP’s board as CEO in August 2022.

David Wild brings extensive experience in the consumer sector to the Board, including executive and non-executive roles at publicly listed companies. David was CEO of Domino’s Pizza Group, UK/ROI Master Franchisee, from 2014 until 2020, a period where the company expanded significantly through accelerated new store openings. Prior to that, he was CEO of Halfords plc and has prior senior executive experience at Walmart Stores Inc., Tesco Plc and RHM Foods Limited.


DPP holds the franchise rights for well known Pizza brand in Poland with market share growing, Poland is the one few bright spots in Europe.

Poland GDP Annual Growth RatePoland’s 38-million consumer market is one of the biggest in Europe. Poland's main industries are: food and beverage processing, shipbuilding and the manufacture of machinery, iron and steel products, chemicals, glass and textiles. On the expenditure side, household consumption is the main component of GDP and accounts for 60 percent of its total use, followed by gross fixed capital formation (20 percent) and government expenditure (18 percent). Exports of goods and services account for 47 percent of GDP while imports account for 46 percent, adding 1 percent of total GDP.

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Hi

For any watching the AI space.

This Morningstar article (30/1) might be of interest (see below).

It articulates why some are starting to comment on the likelihood that the several available LLMs, and others yet to come, might actually become commodities.

This extract ......

We have been witnessing ongoing commodification of large language models, or LLMs, in the Al-value chain, and we believe economic value is shifting downstream to software companies that can orchestrate smarter LLMs that drive productivity gains. Traditional LLMs are more akin to statistical word generators, but when Palantir orchestrates them with every bit of disparate data available to a customer, they become significantly more useful thanks to much-needed context about the individual customer and their pain points.

What the article is referring to is the fact that Palantir Technologies (NSQ:PLTR) AIP platform with its Ontology architecture (digital twin of an organisation) actually makes the data from LLMs, and any other data sources, useful for its customers. Not simply as data or information but more importantly as alerts for decisions and actions (within the context of a customers organisation) as well as assessment (in real time) of implications of decisions or actions likely to be taken.

The outcomes being, financially valuable improvements in productivity, ever more effective decisions and actions, increasingly deeper insights into how an organisation works, and consequently what are its critical places to apply focus and/or resources towards.

Commentators are beginning to point out that it is these downstream software companies such as Palantir Technologies (NSQ:PLTR) (and possibly Salesforce (NYQ:CRM) with its drive to create agents or ServiceNow (NYQ:NOW) amongst others) who now might become the important gainers from the AI innovations.

Here is a link (through a Tweet in X) which leads to the full Morningstar article ......

https://x.com/TradexWhisperer/...

I hold Palantir Technologies (NSQ:PLTR) but do not hold Salesforce (NYQ:CRM) or ServiceNow (NYQ:NOW).

Also worthy of note, Palantir Technologies (NSQ:PLTR) reports Q4/FY Mon 3rd Feb.

Regards

Howard

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Hi Howard

I know you’re a big fan of Palantir. And I would be - at the right price. But I have owned Salesforce and ServiceNow for more than half a decade and I’ve been surprised at how effective they’ve been in monetising AI well ahead (relative to revenues) of the likes of Microsoft, Alphabet and Amazon. 

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Hi BnB

Yes I have watched both Salesforce (NYQ:CRM) and ServiceNow (NYQ:NOW) for a while.

I suspect they are ahead of the bigger platforms monetising AI, in part, because their products/platforms are more sectorally specific than the likes of Microsoft, Alphabet and Amazon. 

My reading of these agentic AI software agents is that there is a degree of anchoring to sectors (or verticals).

You can see this in other product/platform offerings such as from Nivida, Palantir, Salesforce, as well as ServiceNow.

I perceive that in part, its clarity of what the important use cases are/will be which is what is catalysing the agentic AI evolution. Hence his is more easily identified in the narrower sector/verticals than the broader markets served by Microsoft, Alphabet and Amazon.

It's an interesting space to be watching.

Regards

Howard

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As its a slow news day, I would love to here Graham's thoughts on the long-overdue divestment strategy at Smiths (LON:SMIN) -- and what could go wrong to derail the plan  which, on paper, sounds a great move to finally unlock value but I suspect this is already in the price.

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Thanks for covering Smiths, Graham. The rationale for divesting the Detection/Interconnect businesses seems to make a lot of sense.  The resulting rump, John Crane and Flex-Tek,, fit well together and will be half the size of today's Smiths. 

Once the divestments are finished, I suspect Smiths will become a tempting target for a bigger US, German or Japanese engineering group, which will no longer have to break up the group itself.

Meanwhile, there's the buybacks to keep shareholders interested! One for the watchlist, I think

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No worries Jeff! and thanks for all the constructive comments that I will be reflecting on. Have a good weekend. Graham

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I considered buying Tribal (LON:TRB) this morning but rejected it because 

1) Outlook is gloomy as follows: "Tribal's positive trading performance in FY24, reduced debt levels and improved EBITDA margin have provided a strengthened foundation as the business enters FY25 which will help to offset the anticipated continued decline in the non-core business and £0.5m impact of higher employers' national insurance. Whilst new customer generation was slower in FY24 than in prior years, the Group has a growing pipeline across the business, an effective cloud strategy, and continued ARR growth projected for FY25."   

2) EBITDA is not real profit anyway, but they are using adjusted EBITDA so as to justify the  phrase "substantially ahead". Yet this excludes the effects of £6m of adjustments for exceptional items.

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I have encountered Tribal at work and was not impressed and subsequently have not invested, or will be investing. I have heard similar from some of those on the ground that have used Sage accountancy software. Experience by those that have to use the product may not necessarily affect profitability, of course.  However, I would suspect that long term success is likely to come from generally well received, as well as profitable, products.

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Is there any light at the end of the tunnel for what was a Stocko favourite - Bioventix (LON:BVXP) which has fallen every month for the past year - yet the list of Instit holders shows more buys than sells over this period. Any thoughts please ?

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Starting to get interested in this one (BVXP). What is your estimate of its intrinsic value? On a DCF basis its fine but not a lot of growth there so I'm attempting to value on a Dividend Discount model basis.

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I have held Bioventix (LON:BVXP) for ten years but sold half a year ago as it had become my largest holding. I struggle to see a convincing company-specific reason for its fall from grace since then, apart from its high PER, which has corrected somewhat, but is still not cheap -- and never will be, given the company's moat , I would argue.

If its any consolation, the US biotech ETFs have gone nowhere in the past year while tech  has soared, so I guess its just a pricey stock in an out-of-favour sector.

The lack of communication from the company presumably doesnt help either. 

I plan to keep holding more in hope than expectation that it will one day produce another blockbuster.

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Richard Beddard did a write-up on Bioventix (LON:BVXP) back in December that's a probably a fair summary of the company:

No doubt Bioventix has lots of know-how in cloning antibodies derived from sheep, its specialty, but to me it is like a rare orchid that flowers once a decade.  Every time it develops a new antibody, we wonder how spectacular the show will be. Will it be a blockbuster antibody-like vitD3.5H10, a lucrative one-line troponin, or perhaps something of a non-event? I love that Bioventix exists, but I think maybe it is too precious to own. I wonder whether its founder and chief executive Peter Harrison is irreplaceable, and how many of its tiny pool of employees are too.

https://knowledge.sharescope.c...

I own the stock but only as a part of a widely diversified portfolio. Clearly if it succeeds in commercialising its Alzheimer's antibody then the future value is huge. On the other hand we have the cliff edge of the agreement with Siemens on troponin expiring in 2032.

The stock is outside my sphere of competence to analyse - frankly I doubt even insiders can estimate the probability of success. So it has significant current earnings value and future optionality. What you can't do is any kind of traditional valuation analysis because the uncertainties are too great.

I probably shouldn't hold, but I have a deal of affection for the company. Emotion is never a reliable partner in investing, sadly.

timarr

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Thanks timarr and others -  Yes, all of the above rings - Love the phrase -' too precious to own' and like a number of us - shouldnt own but.....   

If only PH were to engage with his fans - .

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Bioventix (LON:BVXP)

Yes, just interim and prelim. results the only trading statements in the last year, but this company has always been bad at communicating with shareholders.

This was my second largest holding but I sold the lot at the results on 28/10/24. It took quite an effort to tell myself not to be sentimental on this and press the button. It gave me a total return of 311% over the 8 years I held it so I can't grumble.

I was already worried because the Buffettology fuhd had been selling down (and K A-L is no fool) but the main problem was that in the results eps was 5% below forecast - basically the growth in troponin has been below hopes - and is needed to fill the hole before Tau, the last great hope, kicks in. There are only 8 more years (to June 32) - not long in BVXP's timescale - for troponin to peak before the contract ends.

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Re: Bioventix

I think that this might be a long term holding of Leon Boros? He put a lot of effort into researching the company.

If he is still a subscriber to Stocko he may wish to respond.

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Will there be any commentary on Tritax & REITs? I have found them increasingly desirable over the last couple of months and took some long positions. I noticed Paul Scott also mentioned he had taken out 5 long positions across them too, although he didn't take on Tritax.

Tritax doing alright...as usual. Share price still at a decent discount to NAV. I'm long on Tritax and a couple of others (Care REIT (LON:CRT), Warehouse Reit (LON:WHR)). I for one find it very relaxing holding these REITs and just leaving them in my portfolio for the long term as a bit of diversification into property, as I don't have any buy to let properties and always felt like gaining some exposure into property would be a good thing, and valuations recently were too attractive to resist. Taken 3x 5% positions.

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REITs and Investment Trusts are often discussed under the monthly Investment Trust discussion thread.  Charles and Ken Mitchell often provide useful commentary on the sector so if you haven't seen worth visiting.

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How do I find the monthly Investment Trust discussion thread please?

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I just went Discuss > All posts, then it was the 2nd post down: https://www.stockopedia.com/co...

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I hold CRT- not sure why the price has fallen , but great yield now. BBOX is on my buy list when have funds- probably after April 5th unless sell something.  The Trust monthly is here. Ken and I are not related ! https://www.stockopedia.com/co...

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Your Stocko's version of Eastenders Mitchell brothers Charles but if found in the pub together hopefully you would be discussing trust discounts not cracking heads open lol

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Indeed I hope we would ! Booked a restaurant in Kefalonia and when we arrived (6 of us) greeted with Eastenders ! Please to say weaned my wife to be off the programme it shortly after we met

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Thanks for taking a look Graham!

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You're welcome! I prefer exciting chess, though! G

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RE: Tritax Big Box REIT (LON:BBOX)

Also thanks to Graham (and team) for the coverage both today and previously.

I've ended up as an unwitting shareholder in BBOX after the UKCM takeover last year.  But there didn't (and doesn't) seem to be any reason to dislike them so I kept the stock in the vague hope that something interesting would happen.

And lo, something of mild interest has occured (at least to me, it seems to be very interesting to the board): a recent announcement of a large data centre development at Heathrow that effectively short circuits the grid connection problem that's delaying many similar developments:

https://www.stockopedia.com/sh...

They obviously believe that the prime location will be of particular interest to high value clients (well, the hyperscalers, so AI by any other name). With the government's urgent focus on growth it's hard to see the planning on this being rejected - especially as data centres like this have now been designated as critical national infrastructure.

It looks like it will go live in 2027 but it's going to cost BBOX a cool £365 million to develop - although that ought to be manageable, it's about 10% of current market cap.

There's no point in trying to compare this to the US data centre (sorry, center) REITs but for amusement it's worth noting:

  1. Digital Realty Trust (NYQ:DLR) is trading at 2.56 times book value; and
  2. Equinix (NSQ:EQIX) at over 6 times book value.

I haven't spent much time looking at this, so it's not clear to me what the potential value would be, although the company gushes about the "exceptional returns" on offer. Behind the initial development, with an unnamed low carbon energy company, is a pipeline of similar opportunities across the UK.

I've seen too many "transformational" programs (usually code for "we're going to spend a lot of shareholders' money to satisfy the ego of the CEO") to get overly excited about this, but I do approve of the ambition, it looks like a thoroughly sensible development. And it's a lot more interesting than leasing warehouses!

timarr

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FWIW hVIVO (LON:HVO) -  this morning rns - Rathbones more than doubled their holding to 12.9%. 

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Perseus Mining (ASX:PRU) I have held this for years- through a holding in Cluff Gold that became Amara mining and that was taken over by PRU. Sold quite a few on the way up but still hold. Just for anyone interested in a little known Australian gold miner, operations mainly in Africa. "Perseus presents a compelling investment case as a disciplined gold producer with industry-leading costs, robust financials, and clear growth prospects," the Crux team write. "The company's conservative approach to capital allocation, demonstrated by its $1 billion cash position and measured expansion strategy, provides a strong foundation for sustainable growth.

"While the supportive macro environment for gold adds tailwinds, Perseus' true strength lies in its operational excellence and commitment to stakeholder relationships in West Africa. With production costs remarkably stable at around US$1,100 per ounce, the company is well-positioned to generate strong margins even in volatile gold markets.

"For investors seeking exposure to gold through a well-managed producer with proven assets and a clear growth trajectory, Perseus Mining remains an attractive opportunity backed by solid fundamentals and responsible management practices."

https://www.cruxinvestor.com/p...

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Sadly, not available on Hargreaves Lansdowne.

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I use AJ Bell- they seem to have most stocks available. HL does seem to have limitations given comments I see from time top time on here.

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B.P. Marsh & Partners (LON:BPM) - (I hold), I have been thinking of cashing in profits for BPM given the share price is now close to last reported NAV.  Also the forecasts for the coming years look too low compared to this year's performance. Does anyone understand why it is like this?

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I suspect the revenue and profit lines on Stockopedia include both consistent revenue, probs from dividends from the underlying companies, but also sales of capital positions. Not very useful for us really.

I think the issue is, will they keep growing the NAV as they have in the past? And how does the share price reflect that? 

The last declared NAV was 690.8p for July 24.

An imperfect proxy for the change in NAV might be the FT Insurance sector, up about 3% since end July. But maybe picking up a bit more recently, since about mid-Jan.

Also remember the company's NAV has significantly outperformed the sector over almost any time period.

I don't think the quality of the Company has changed but it may be you feel the discount to NAV is too tight.

Your choice, best of luck.

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B.P. Marsh & Partners (LON:BPM) - I hold. There has been significant Director selling since last September so that may be one of the reasons the share price has stalled.

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Thanks for your input here, I hadn't spotted the directors selling, not big numbers but quite a few transactions probably indicates that the NAV wasn't at those levels!  I'm going to sell and watch, I suspect there is some upside potential and may get in at the next market dip.

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I don't hold B.P. Marsh & Partners (LON:BPM) but don't they acquire companies or shares in stocks and then sell them on, after a few years, there was a large sale last year. So these sales are not going to be consistent every year, looks like the next 2 years will be quieter. I was considering buying but with the lower forecasts, l will wait. Yes plenty director selling, even this month. 

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Why Fevertree’s Molson Coors tie-up is just the tonic for investors

'With Molson Coors taking an 8.5% stake in Fevertree Drinks (LON:FEVR), it provides a long-term backer and a potential eventual acquirer of the group,’ noted Panmure Liberum.

‘Guaranteed profits for five years and no working capital investment requirement in the US should free up significant cash flow for the group to return to shareholders. We expect the group to significantly re-rate after today’s announcement to reflect this.’

Russ Mould, investment director at AJ Bell, said the Molson Coors news may well restore some of the fizz Fevertree shares enjoyed after their listing 10 years ago.

https://www.sharesmagazine.co....

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very strong director buying yesterday!

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