Small Cap Value Report (Fri 19 Nov 2021) - WIN, MORE, VANL, CAR
Good morning, it's Paul here with the last SCVR for this week. Today's report is now finished - have a lovely weekend!
Agenda -
Wincanton (LON:WIN) - impressive growth in profits in H1 results. Solid trading update, and it looks set up for a possible earnings beat for FY 3/2022 maybe? I like the firm grip the company has on supply chain/labour issues, with higher costs being passed through to customers. Balance sheet is still weak, and don't ignore the pension scheme - which is currently absorbing half free cashflow. Overall though, WIN looks good value to me.
Hostmore (LON:MORE) (I hold) - the demerger from ELTA (I hold) has been a disaster in the short term, with an obvious failure on the part of Numis to line up buyers - an essential part of a demerger! I think that's created a very good buying opportunity, because the fundamentals of the business are unchanged, it's just that hardly anyone seems to know it's listed! I give my current opinion, based on the fundamentals, not emotions or short term price, and flag up an InvestorMeetCompany early next week, which might interest you.
Van Elle Holdings (LON:VANL) - a solid trading update for H1. Confirms expectations for the full year, although I think it might be limbering up to beat forecasts which look modest. Strong balance sheet pleases me, so there's no insolvency risk in my view. Probably priced about right, with a big increase in next year's earnings already anticipated in forecasts.
Carclo (LON:CAR) - previously an over-indebted basket-case. Interim results today show a dramatically improved picture. Bank debt now looks more reasonable, given a strong improvement in profits. However, the pension scheme is sucking out £4.0m p.a. in cashflow, and rules out dividends for some time to come. Hence why the equity looks cheap - because the large pension deficit has first dibs on the cashflows.
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Wincanton (LON:WIN)
381p (pre market open) - mkt cap £475m
Wincanton plc ("Wincanton" or "the Group"), a leading supply chain partner for UK business, today announces its half year results for the six months ended 30 September 2021.
The headline H1 figures certainly grab my attention in a positive way -
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The adjustments in arriving at “underlying” figures are small, and look reasonable to me, so no issues there.
Driver pay/shortages - this is clearly the biggest current problem facing logistics companies. WIN seems to have a particularly good grip on things, with contracts mostly set up so that increased costs can be passed through to customers, e.g. -
The Group has been tackling the issues together with its customers and working collaboratively to mitigate further risk and optimise service levels. Over 70% of the Group's revenue is derived from open-book contracts which provides the Group with significant direct protection against cost pressures.
We have secured initial price increases or exits on approximately 90% of our closed book transport revenue and we expect further increases will be required in the second half of the year in some contracts. Where customers have been unwilling to agree price increases, we exited contracts as they are no longer viable and so divert resources to more profitable contracts.
Maybe the company could explain this better? Some investors may not be familiar with the phrase “open-book contracts”, so I think explaining it in simpler, everyday english would be a good idea. Many companies make this mistake, of using industry jargon & abbreviations, which can lead to confusion amongst investors who are not necessarily industry experts.
Even though WIN is a fairly low margin business, the above commentary suggests to me that it probably has good pricing power currently. It’s ditching customers that won’t accept price rises, which is a very strong position to be in. Customers generally must be extremely anxious about logistics, with all the supply chain issues currently happening. Therefore paying up, for a really good & reliable logistics partner, is probably something that most are happy to do. I hadn’t really thought about this before, but it’s a bullish point to consider for WIN shares, and not something that’s likely to be fixed overnight.
Outlook - the main bit says -
Our high growth markets remain eCommerce, public sector and infrastructure and our activities, propositions and pipelines have all developed further during the first half of the year. The acquisition of Cygnia towards the end of the first half provides a platform from which to drive a step change in mid-market eFulfilment customers, expanding the target market within which we operate and extending the reputation and reach of the Group.
The Group remains on track to deliver full year profits consistent with market expectations and the Board is encouraged by the sales pipeline and remains confident in the Group's future growth opportunities.
Acquisition - a small acquisition called Cygnia was made on 10 Sept 2021, so will only have contributed 20 days trading in H1.
Cashflow - the summarised cashflow table below is very useful. I’ve highlighted some key items, namely:
- EBITDA of £50.8m is a red herring, because of IFRS 16. It really needs to be reduced by the £13.5m of “Repayment of obligations under leases” lower down the table, because these are real world cash outflows. The sooner IFRS 16 is scrapped, the better. Accounting standards should be useful for accounts readers, not require manual adjustments to delete accounting rules which cause problems, and distort reality
- Note how the free cashflow in H1 of £17.9m is split roughly half & half between paying dividends to shareholders, and servicing the pension deficit, which is a major drain on cashflows & is set to continue for years to come. So we cannot just ignore the pension scheme deficit payments, they’re large cash outflows - half of free cashflow in H1.
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I’m happy with profitability and outlook, so let’s check my main area of concern in the past -
Balance sheet -
Bank debt - looks fine, and the company has plenty of headroom on its bank covenants, so no issues there. Also, as trading has been so good, debt becomes less important.
Pension scheme - another area where accounting standards are utterly ridiculous. In this case, the balance sheet shows an accounting surplus (i.e. an asset) for the pension scheme of £67.6m. Yet in the real world, there’s an actuarial deficit, which is currently consuming half the company’s free cashflow. How on earth does that make sense?
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As highlighted above, the “98% hedged against the actuarial liabilities” sounds very encouraging, and I presume means that the risk of the pension deficit soaring for whatever reason (e.g. higher inflation) should be eliminated.
Another point is that the £53m estimated actuarial deficit, might result in the current c.£18m cash contributions from the company being reduced in future, maybe? These things are recalculated every 3 years, so a negotiated reduction in cash outflows looks a possibility.
To be safe, I would cross out the £67.6m pension asset from the balance sheet, and replace it with a £53m liability, thus reducing NAV by £120.6m, to better reflect reality.
Looking at the balance sheet as a whole, NAV is only £15.0m. I would adjust out the goodwill of £109.2m, and £120.6m adjustment referred to above re the pension scheme. That takes NTAV to £(214.8)m. That’s a very weak balance sheet. However, the question is, does it matter?
Arguably, with the business trading well, maybe not. Also, it has a favourable position whereby customers pay up-front, which allows it to operate normally despite having a very weak working capital position - the current ratio is extremely low at 0.63 - however, there’s almost nothing in inventories, which explains why that position is not necessarily a problem.
Overall, I think investors should at least be aware that this remains a weak balance sheet, and the company is probably reliant on bank facilities - although that’s difficult to ascertain, as we’re not given the average daily net debt - which could be worse than a snapshot on the year end date.
That said, WIN got through the pandemic without needing to raise fresh equity, so it clearly has a supportive bank, and is providing essential services to customers, so there’s no question of it ever being forced to shut down, no matter how severe any possible future lockdowns. Hence this is undoubtedly a resilient business, which makes me more comfortable with its weak balance sheet.
My opinion - I think WIN is looking increasingly impressive. Looking back through my previous notes, as the performance of the company improved, my reviews became increasingly positive, as you would expect. Investing for me isn't about forming fixed, emotional views, it's about following the facts & changing your mind when they change.
My view on WIN has moved up another notch for me today, with these strong numbers, and it looks set up for a possible beat against full year expectations.
What would we value the company at, if there was no pension scheme? A PER of 15-20 probably. Yet here we are, with a PER of about 10. To me, that is now looking an anomaly - i.e. the market seems to be applying an excessive discount for the pension scheme.
Hence I see good potential upside on this share at 388p. I reckon it’s worth maybe 25-50% more than that. Divis are increasing, so there's an income to be had whilst investors wait for a re-rating.
There was a legal claim against the company, I seem to recall, and note 16 (contingent liabilities) mentions a new possible claim, so that would be an area to clarify.
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Hostmore (LON:MORE) (I hold)
108p (up 3%, at 09:36) - mkt cap £136m
I’m flagging this because quite a few readers also own this share, which was demerged from Electra Private Equity (LON:ELTA) recently.
As shareholders will be painfully aware, the demerger has been a flop so far, because Numis and other advisers completely failed to do what was required - namely drum up buying interest in the demerged companies. Instead we’re seeing daily selling, possibly driven by short term traders bailig out because there were no expected rises on demerger, and we already knew that the shareholder base contained willing sellers. In particular, Electra Private Equity (LON:ELTA) (the rump with Hotter Shoes in it) is far too small to interest most institutions, so they’re dumping into a market where there are currently few buyers.
None of this will matter in the long-term of course, but apologies from me that I didn’t anticipate this short-term disappointment. I wrongly assumed that Numis would have used its extensive contacts list to have lined up buyers, to take the stock from willing sellers. They’ve dismally failed at this, yet advisers collectively relieved us (shareholders) of an extraordinarily excessive £11m in fees.
Infuriating though it is, it’s the company fundamentals that matter, and always shine through in the long-term. We’re just at the painful point where there’s clearly a mismatch between buyers & sellers, and the price just tanks to whatever level buyers find irresistible. I’ve no idea what that price will be, but suspect we could be near the bottom, as the fundamentals on both MORE and ELTA (to be renamed “Unbound”) look really attractively priced now.
Remember nothing has changed (other than being legged over for £11m in fees)- we just now have 2 shares, instead of 1, containing the same businesses. The valuations will sort themselves out sooner or later.
Sorry if people were expecting an instant profit, although it’s really Numis who should be apologising.
Valuation - discarding emotions, and looking at the facts & figures, there’s a useful note here from Edison, which runs through forecasts which seem on the conservative side. Pre-IFRS 16 EBITDA of £29.5m for FY 12/2022 looks set up to be beaten, in my opinion.
Forecast EPS is 10.2p for FY 12/2022, so at 108p, we’re only being asked to pay a PER of 10.6 times. That’s very cheap for a self-funding roll-out of 2 brands, in a very attractive market, where lots of competition disappeared during the pandemic, and high quality sites are now available on attractive terms. It’s the ideal time to be expanding a proven format.
My opinion - the fundamentals are unchanged. Therefore, price dislocations on the demerger logically strike me as a buying opportunity. That’s assuming that you find the TGIs and Hotter Shoes businesses attractive on fundamentals or not. Some investors will, others won’t. Although I’ve found that nearly all negative views on MORE shares seem to be based on a negative personal perception of the brand, rather than analysis of the numbers. A lot of work has been done behind the scene to improve TGIs, which is one of the key things that make the shares attractive to me.
There’s a good opportunity to “meet” management, and become acquainted with the facts and figures, then you can make up your own mind, with this presentation early next week -
Hostmore plc ("Hostmore") is pleased to announce that Robert B. Cook, CEO, and Alan Clark, CFO, will provide a live presentation titled 'Hostmore: the new home for Fridays and MORE', via the Investor Meet Company platform on 23(rd) November 2021 at 12:00pm GMT.
The presentation is open to all existing and potential shareholders.
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Van Elle Holdings (LON:VANL)
45p (up c.6%, at 11:15) - mkt cap £48m
Van Elle Holdings plc (AIM: VANL), the UK's largest ground engineering contractor, today provides a trading update for the six months ended 31 October 2021 (the 'Period') ahead of announcing its half-year results, which are expected to be released on Monday 31 January 2022.
The text reads positively, but the conclusion is in line with expectations -
The Board is pleased with the progress delivered in the first half of the year and continues to be confident that FY22 full year performance will be in line with market expectations.
Summarising the other points -
H1 revenues £60m - up 56% on last year H1 (badly impacted by lockdown 1 remember), and up 24% on H1 before covid - so a good result by the looks if it, at least at the revenues line
“Good capacity usage across all divisions”
Residential construction is most active segment
Rail least active segment, but improving now
Management focused on improving margins - good
Cash down by £2.2m, to £6.3m in H1- due to higher working capital, and capex
Hire purchase debt reduced (no figures)
Order book £34.5m at end Oct 2021, almost unchanged in last 3 months
Supply chain - vague, but sounds OK -
The Group has continued to experience the effects of industry-wide supply chain challenges, salary inflation and short-term employee availability. These challenges continue to be mitigated at an operational level.
Outlook -
… remains confident that the strong market recovery and divisional performance will underpin an improved outlook…
The Board is pleased with the progress delivered in the first half of the year and continues to be confident that FY22 full year performance will be in line with market expectations.
My opinion - broker consensus forecast seems too low, at £100m revenues, given that £60m was achieved in H1. I’ve checked the seasonality, and pre-covid, it was sometimes H1 weighted, and other times H2 weighted, so no obvious pattern there.
I’ve checked the last reported balance sheet, which has £40.2m in NTAV - very strong for a £48m market cap company. Effectively, the company owns most of its fixed assets outright, which I very much like. That de-risks the business model almost completely, in my view - i.e. there’s not really any insolvency risk, even in a deep recession.
Thanks to Zeus, putting out a fresh note this morning. It expects 1.9p EPS in FY 04/2022 rising strongly to 3.5p next year. That puts it on PERs of 23.6 and 12.9 respectively.
I can’t get excited about this valuation, because this type of business is cyclical, and likely to be on a lowish rating permanently. Overall then, probably priced about right. There might be upside if it beats forecasts, but next year EPS is already forecast to rise by 84%, so much stronger performance is already priced-in. Hence why I can't get excited about the valuation.
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Carclo (LON:CAR)
43.8p (up c.5%, at 12:25) - mkt cap £32m
Carclo plc, a global provider of value-adding engineered solutions for the medical, diagnostics, optical, electronics and aerospace industries, announces its results for the six months to 30 September 2021 ("H1 2022").
It’s been a while since I looked at this heavily indebted group, which seemed to teeter on the brink of going bust in the pandemic. However, things have moved on, with economies improving a lot, and banks seemingly more relaxed, as they see some highly indebted companies recovering, and bank debt reducing. So I’m keen to take a look at Carclo with fresh eyes, and see if things have improved, and risk reduced.
Some key H1 numbers -
Revenue £58.7m (continuing operations only) - up 17.5% on H1 LY, and up about 2% on the previous half year (H2 of FY 03/2021)
Underlying operating profit in H1 is £3.7m, up from £1.5m in H1 LY
An additional profit of £2.1m has come from one-off US grant income
Finance costs are hefty, at £1.4m, which needs to come off operating profit
Underlying H1 EPS from continuing ops is 3.25p - much better than breakeven H1 LY
So far, so good! These are very much improved numbers, and remember that’s only for H1. Could we be looking at c.5.0p EPS for the full year, by simplistically doubling the H1 number?
I can’t find any broker research notes.
Broker consensus on Stockopedia shows £114m revenues for FY 03/2022, and 3.8p. Those figures look beatable, given the H1 performance, so my crude guess of 5.0p might be possible?
Moving on to the previous concerns over the balance sheet -
Net debt has reduced to £21.6m, is down 12% from a year earlier - not a huge reduction it has to be said. That’s excluding lease liabilities. However the important point is that the business is now much more profitable, so in better shape to carry this level of debt. Hence I’d say the bank debt is now close to being sustainable.
Pension deficit - this is the other big issue. The accounting deficit has reduced a lot, but is still large, and as we know, can often be the tip of the iceberg -
IAS19 Retirement Benefit liability down to £33.4m, reduced by £24.7m since September 2020 (and reduced by £3.9m since March 2021) from improved asset returns, additional employer contributions, and initiatives progressed with the Trustees
The more important actuarial deficit calculations are not provided, so we’re in the dark about what future deficit recovery payments might be -
No initial data has yet been released on the triennial actuarial valuation of March 2021.
The current cash outflows for deficit recovery are very substantial relative to the size & profitability of the business, so ignore this issue at your peril -
In accordance with the recovery plan agreed by the Pensions Regulator and pension scheme trustees, total contributions paid by the Company (for deficit recovery contributions and scheme administration costs) for the six-month period were £2.1m (H1 2021: £1.1m). Total contributions for the six-month period to 31 March 2022 are expected to be £1.8m.
That’s £4.0m this year, giving no realistic scope for divis, and not a great deal of scope for major bank debt reduction either. Especially as capex is also quite high at £3.5m in H1. Those are big competing demands for limited cashflows.
They can’t pay divis for now anyway -
Under the terms of its financing agreements the Company is not permitted to make a dividend payment to shareholders up to the period ending in July 2023.
Outlook -
Our first half performance is ahead of our expectations even after the impact of one-off benefits is removed.
Subject to there being no significant deterioration in trading conditions as a result of supply chain or Covid-related disruption, the Board expects the positive commercial momentum seen in the first half to continue, with further product sales growth in H2. Trading margins for the second half are expected to be slightly lower than H1, reflecting the current higher cost environment.
Nevertheless, the Board currently anticipates full year underlying trading will be slightly ahead of expectations, with the one-off benefits of the Covid-related grant income and contribution from discontinued operations incremental to this.
My opinion - Carclo looks dramatically improved from when I last looked at it, when a dilutive equity fundraising (or even insolvency) seemed inevitable.
I think the position is now much better, with bank debt looking more manageable, providing improved profitability can be maintained.
The trouble is though, as things stand, the pension scheme is still such a large cashflow burden, arguably that offsets much of the value of the business.
Hence this share is mainly a geared play on the pension problem reducing, and the trading of the business improving further.
Taking into account the bank debt & pension deficit, the valuation looks about right to me.
There could yet be an equity fundraise, but I think the risk of it being hugely dilutive may have receded.
Overall then, much better than it was, but still a bit too risky for my personal taste.
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Reference Hostmore (LON:MORE) late RNS today states
Position
No. of Shares under Award
Robert B. Cook Chief Executive Officer 639,136
Alan Clark
Chief Financial Officer 448,054
The awards were granted as Performance Share Awards subject to a two-year
Holding Period on 17 November 2021.
The Vesting Date of each Performance Share Award shall be 17 November 2024.
The Exercise Period of each Performance Share Award shall expire on 16
November 2031. A two-year Holding Period applies to each of the Performance
Share Awards.
Does anyone know what the Performance criteria is in order for the shares to be awarded?
Wondered if there are any holders of/views on Gb (LON:GBG) ‘s US$736m acquisition of US firm Acuant and the placing done after hours last night.
https://www.stockopedia.com/sh...
Quite a big purchase requiring a £300m placement that was done at 725p share/a 17% discount to the closing price suggesting either a bit of indigestion in the placing process and/or a bit of a thumbs down for the acquisition itself. At face value it looks a good strategic fit giving a boost to US growth but maybe the suspicion that the price is a bit rich as even after full synergies it’s expected to be earnings neutral in the first year. Shares marked down today about 11% at the moment having been a fair bit lower at market open.
Gus.
Re Gb (LON:GBG)
I'm a long term holder and not unhappy to see a more aggressive stance from what has been a steady burner over recent years. Thankfully, my profit is higher than the company's growth thanks to a judicious entry. Also like my shares, the target has a much stronger growth rate than the acquirer so I hope for a boost to performance. The purchase is apparently neutral in F22 and accretive from FY23 although that remains to be tested. Meanwhile I take comfort from today's moderate bounce from the placement level. I actually added 20% at the placement price shortly after open, reflecting the increase in the share count, as I like the management and sector. No new research notes have been issued to my knowledge but Edison and Canaccord both cover.
Hi BnB,
I bought some Gb (LON:GBG) through the PrimaryBid offer that came out last night. Good that they offered some to the PI although at £5m in aggregate it was quite a small bone for them to toss. I was slightly surprised that the PB offer didn’t seem to be oversubscribed (I got the full allocation I requested) as the PB offers are usually scaled back. Possibly because they gave no hint as to likely placement discount which was a fair bit higher than I anticipated. I agree it’s a good purchase - makes sense to buy in growth in the US - main concern being the acquisition price given we maybe seem to be towards the top of the tech cycle at the moment. If it works out today’s purchase price will be largely irrelevant in the scheme of things.
Gus.
Good luck to us both!
Good Lord. Maybe a separate post to highlight what both do and synergy for future growth. Somebody did not like it so a buy op?
Paul - I think Carclo (LON:CAR) have a 3 year agreement in place for the Debt and Pension - So hopefully any raise, if needed, will be at a higher price, if they can continue to make progress from here.
Have a great weekend.
Also happy to hold Hostmore (LON:MORE) and have been adding. Should be an easy 50% upside for new investors in the relative short term IMO. Shame for us that held before the demerger but trying to avoid feeling too downtrodden right now.
Numis do seem exceptionally awful for PIs. More should take a leaf from FinnCap's book.
Help! I’ve a big problem with interactive Investor and a purchase of LON:MORE. On 5/11 I bought what I thought was MORE independently. The display for them was wierd from the off but I assumed naively it’d settle down. Somehow they now show me holding ECP shares. They have been very very poor to look into this. Please see screenshots. PS the millions is wrong, alas. I bought £5000. Worth. Email rsjmail@mac.com please if you have advice or experiencing the same. Thanks.
wrong, alas, I only have £5000 invested.
Sell and withdraw the cash
xricx - if ii have not solved your problem you should sent them a secure message headed Formal Complaint. That will trigger several mechanisms including a clock as they will wish to solve it before the point when you can take it to the financial ombudsman.
see https://www.ii.co.uk/legal-ter...
btw have you tried selling the Monreal? (without pressing the accept button!)
i will have em if you don"t want them
Re: Interactive Investor
I've found the people who answer the phone at Interactive Investor quite variable in their ability to solve problems. I may be easier to hang up and call back later in the hope that someone more able to help will answer the phone. There are people there who know what is going on. Finding those people can take several attempts.
I've had similar issues with Interactive Investor recently.
Last week rang Customer Services & was put through to someone on the Estates team - got cut off.
Rang back 2 minutes later and was categorically told that Estates were "not customer facing" and, after a bit of disagreement, had a long session of asking a question, him asking Estates & relaying the answer back, which prompted another question from me - you get the picture.
Later in the week spoke to Customer Services again, got better advice and, at the end of the conversation, she volunteered that I'd be better ringing the Estates Team directly next time and was given the number..........
Some companies customer services are appalling in this country. Ig Group (LON:IGG) are really bad, can take well over 1 hour to get through and then they are clueless and just give duff information to get rid of you. Barclays I just spent 3 hours in the last few days, trying to sort out access to my credit card account and I'm still no nearly to resolving it, spoke to 4 different people, each time had to start again, numerous security questions etc, last person was trying to talk to another dept. to resolve it but after 30 minutes still no response, completely useless.
Customer services seems to have got a lot worse in the last 2 years.
Hello RustBucket.
I have no dealings with Ig Group (LON:IGG) or Barclays, but on a broader level I completely agree with you regarding customer service generally. Far too many times I have been put on hold for ages, only to finally be put through to somebody who barely even speaks English.
No experience of Braclays banking, but in general I've found customer service for Barclays Stockbrokers very good. When I've needed I've always been able to get through to someone in the UK, who doesn't read from a script, generally knows what they are talking about, and will find out if they don't. It's not as good as before Barclays made such a mess of integrating stockbrokers with banking, and they've failed to reintroduce secure messaging, as repeatedly promised, but thankfully the telephone help desk seems to have survived the massacre.
Paul, any chance of a review of: Eenergy
Hi Chris,
Paul, any chance of a review of: Eenergy
I've had a quick look at today's trading update, and the last published accounts for Eenergy (LON:EAAS)
Quick comments -
Breakeven trading for FY 6/2021
In line with market expectations update today
Previously guided that it expects higher profits this year
Big acquisition made recently with a placing at 15p
Buy & build strategy
Fashionable area, re ESG, energy saving, etc.
Overall - could be an interesting story here, but for me it's too early stage to value accurately, due to the lack of historical profits. So I'd want to see more of a track record before forming a firm view on it. Quite nice that you can buy just below the placing price now though, as its been in a horrible downtrend.
Hope that's helpful!
Best wishes, Paul.
Re Electra Private Equity (LON:ELTA) , does anyone know whether Hotter Shoes is profitable?
EBITDA should exceed £5.5m for this year
That's one of the problems - we really need to see some clean accounts.
At the current market cap of ~£26m, Electra Private Equity (LON:ELTA) are less than 5x forecast EBITDA at the moment.
The numbers in the stockreport are all over the place showing them paying a 10p per share dividend on a £2m loss. No wonder no-one is buying them!
They had a capital markets day which you can find on the website. I'm fairly certain I saw recent broker note recently that showed they were ahead of their planned £5.4m ebitda for this year at the half way stage.
The only thing that wasn't properly addressed in the financials of the capital markets presentation was debt. They are targeting sub 2* ebitda (so £11m or less) to net cash medium term but had already paid down below £10m at H1 so I'm guessing at £7-8m by y/e.
Agree we need clean accounts coming through but there's a lot of info in the capital markets presentation. Worth a read.
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For £ELTA in their presentation I believe they said aiming for £50m Rev , 10% margins. I hope they will also do a follow up presentation like Hostmore (LON:MORE) has announced for next week.
If you look at the Edison broker report (you can see this for free if you register with them) it states Electra Private Equity (LON:ELTA) are 8% ahead in EBITDA for the first 7 months. Staying at 8% and the EBITDA for the whole year would be £5.8m. I’d guess they will beat that and probably hit £6m EBITDA.
The price of Electra and Hostmore following the de-merger look like bargain price at the moment. Feel the main risk to both is any further lockdowns. TGI Fridays should have a great xmas trade if they are allowed to open for xmas parties and Hotter Shoes should also do well in the same scenario with people wanting to dress up to go out. Don't yet hold, but that may change soon.
Angle (LON:AGL)
More research published by Medical University of Vienna & Institute of Lung Research and Pulmonary Oncology Vienna.
“Despite recent advances in the treatment of non-small cell lung cancer (NSCLC), less than 10% of patients survive the first five years when the disease has already spread at primary diagnosis.”
“In summary, the present study highlights the prognostic value of the CSC-related NANOG and PROM1 transcripts in CTCs enriched by a label-free device from blood samples taken from patients with primary or progressive disease. Our findings underline the relevance of CTCs other than ctDNA and may strengthen the role of CTCs as an additional tool for the clinical management of NSCLC patients.”
https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4426/11/11/1225
This strengthens the case for Parsortix (CTCs) being used in conjunction with the existing Cellsearch (ctDNA) approach and not as an outright competitor.
Re Angle (LON:AGL) hello Jim. The recent news and SP progress I trust is in anticipation of a positive review from the FDA in the relatively near future.
Change of NOMAD and broker to Berenberg and Jefferies respectively says to me that the management is ready to have greater focus on the US and also to be planning a substantial capital raise on FDA approval. This will fund faster forward movement on the multiple strands they have already fully progressed in research institutes - prostate, NSCLC and others to gain speedy individual approval for each through the FDA.
The two senior management members awarding themselves around £3m of stock between them at roughly today's price (nil cost of course) gives me confidence that this is the base price and all - management and stakeholders like you and me - will benefit from the upward movement in SP anticipated following FDA approval.
They have worked tremendously hard under very difficult circumstances because, without Covid 19, they would surely have expected an FDA decision around two years ago.
The key move in the circumstances IMHO was the last fund raise at par to fund the two labs - one in UK and one US - which are now working with companies to provide assays and of course further proof down the line that this unique process has great positive value to patients, healthcare providers and shareholders alike.
Hostmore (LON:MORE) - happy to hold on to this one for a while, just trying hard to ignore the big negative in my portfolio.
TGI Fridays has changed over the last year - I remember going in the late 90s when it was good food and great cocktails. Last 10 years were really disappointing - tired look, very tired (and poor quality/value) food.
Have been a few times recently - food is much much better. More important the restaurants have been busy. Last went on Tuesday evening and it was rammed. Previous time, albeit a Saturday, they were turning away people without bookings.
On a personal note, they also offer a really good gluten free menu - given that three of us are coeliac!
So, based on fundamentals and personal experience, happy to hold.......
Dave
£more Looks like the investor presentation is timed to be in line with the new and third 63rd and 1st opening in Harrogate on 26/11, hopefully we will get some idea how this new chain is settling in.
Does anyone know whether we will get final results from £elta which came out on 9/12 last year?
Interesting.......ONS stats show clothing sales jumped by 6.2%. Clothing stores sales are now just 0.5% below their pre-pandemic levels. You'd imagine this bodes particularly well for the likes of bombed out Quiz (LON:QUIZ) which I hold and should have a very large operational gearing effect (particularly as most stores are now revenue linked rents)
Retail sales also up 0.8% on the month, coming in ahead of expectations for a 0.5% increase suggesting others may also be doing a bit better than expected too, though perhaps increased revenues may not translate to increased profitability if supply chain inflation isn't completely passed on.
I hold Quiz (LON:QUIZ) so don't disagree that it's cheap but I would point out that revenue linked rents reduces operational gearing.
it does - but their gross margins are very good so it certainly won't eliminate the operational gearing effect, particularly given the low revenue base they were starting from last year. Not too long to find out.
Re Quiz (LON:QUIZ) (I hold) - good points from all!
The stores typically generate a gross margin (in normal trading) of about 60%, and the rents are turnover rents (mostly with no base rent, hence totally flexible) of c.8-9%.
Therefore, regardless of store performance, there's just over 50% of revenue as profit, to cover all the remaining costs. That's a very big number, and should mean that all shops will now be profitable, if they're allowed to trade.
Given that QUIZ did a CVA in June 2020, ditching all the loss-making shops, and renegotiating new 2 years leases on turnover rents, then it's a given that all shops will be profitable now - because they would have not signed new leases (at the height of the pandemic) if they were not going to be profitable on pessimistic assumptions which would have been used at that time.
There's also the point that in many physical locations, QUIZ is one of very few remaining fashion retailers. The Dept Stores have mostly gone, as have all the Arcadia shops.
I think QUIZ is set up to produce good numbers from here onwards, and it has a decent online offering too. The last update mentioned that sales from its stores were almost back to pre-pandemic levels, which on rents have halved and are now completely flexible, that should make a nicely profitable little business going forwards.
I don't want to hold this share forever, but feel there's a valuation anomaly to be had here. It's a differentiated product too, now in a sweet spot (special occasionwear).
Regards, Paul (long)
Paul wrote:
"Therefore paying up, for a really good & reliable logistics partner, is probably something that most are happy to do"
I heard a similar comment at results from DX. I think that many customers will have been dreading price increases, or a supplier going bust. Customers thus regarded the new tariffs as providing some certainty on costs and service going forward and probably 'welcomed' the rises with some relief versus some of the scary numbers out there in media stories.
Regards,
Asagi (no position)
@davidjhill: What did you think about the Petrotal (LON:PTAL) Q3 report yesterday?
Hi FREng : It was a mixed bag and I must admit to being a little disappointed with the Q3 report initially, but having read it more thoroughly and given it a bit more thought it's really only changed the dynamics slightly by 3 months, so nothing has really changed from an investment case perspective for me.
EBITDA guidance increased to $105-110m (up from $90m which is a big upgrade after 9 months of the year). And that includes the deferred well that has pushed production guidance back to 12,500 bopd. 40 day payback on the last well is phenomenal though and bodes well.
Despite the heavy capex this year they will be cashflow flat which is ok and management point to pivoting from 2022 onwards to substantial free cashflow generation. They expect to eliminate debt halfway through 2022 and plan on share buybacks and/or dividends in late 2022
More or less confirms to me like it will have a negative EV from 2023 at this price. They also have a lot of wiggle room with the oil price and have adopted a far more sensible hedging policy, so absent of a dramatic collapse in oil prices I'm happy to hold and may add on weakness.
Many thanks, djh. Petrotal (LON:PTAL) 's Q3 report looked positive to me and the medium term looks remarkably good. Maybe we'll see broker upgrades now.
yep - fingers crossed!! I'm happy enough here. May have to wait a bit but I think they will re-rate upwards at some point next 12 months.
Hostmore (LON:MORE) investor presentation will hopefully reassure and make buyers. I have heard the problems stem from the investment trust holders who don’t own individual companies. They held on for demerger for a pop that didn’t happen and then the selling that followed triggered others to panic out. Should sort itself out soon and I’d hope the timing of the presentation reflects improving order flow.
The advisors "should" have had willing buyers to mop up all those exiting shareholders so one has to wonder whether this mess was just sheer complacency by someone.
Hostmore (LON:MORE) management certainly need to get on the charm offensive and spell out why the shares offer value to as wide an audience as possible. At the current market cap they will need to ensure some level of institutional shareholder base, so I presume a roadshow will also follow.
Here's this week's PIWORLD interview with Ian Whittaker, Media and Tech analyst. Ian discusses Apple's #APPL privacy, where he thinks it affects Facebook but obviously not The Trade Desk #TTD & Tremor International (LON:TRMR) (yet). We also cover Facebook's #FB rebrand; what he likes in the sector: ad agencies (Wpp (LON:WPP)), broadcasters (Itv (LON:ITV)), online classified & grocery delivery. Video & podcast.
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Mode Global Holdings (LON:MODE) hee hee -> classic move fast and break things (inc the truth) start up mentality...have a tenuous relationship with a big and impressive name...name drop it in way that hypes the relationship (I've been there and done that!)
re £MODE Who knew that the future of bitcoin was replacing Green Shield stamps?
I remember Green Shield Stamps - whose were the days.
What do you mean those were the days ? I remember as kids we had the job of licking the horse glue on the back and sticking them in the book - yurggghhhh. Oh what we would have given for a Nectar card in those days :-)
If you're a fan of Green Shield, Eagle Eye Solutions (LON:EYE) is probably something you should look at
Some time ago I recall that Paul and perhaps others recommended a book about multibagging shares but I can’t remember the name of the book or the author. Thought it might make a good Christmas present if anyone can remind me of it please?
It’s called 100 Baggers by Christopher Mayer.
thank you
There was chat yesterday about Naked Wines (LON:WINE)
Here is a slightly different take and a more positive one for those that are interested: https://twitter.com/ElliotTurn...
Interesting comments. I don't have a strong view as an investment. Some views that stopped me from going further with Naked Wines (LON:WINE) when I did around 200p:
I stopped being a customer in UK as for a while I think the quality of wines available here has declined (I was always buying at the higher price end looking for a finer wine on good deal so maybe not representative customer). General availability has declined in UK too.
I find this puzzling. Why would a business established here and with a large customer base let the UK operation wither (imo)? Yes US growth opp huge...but is there a need to take eye of ball in UK?
It makes me question how suitable their model is to expansion as I suspect supply becomes an issue (given the way they fund and source from winemakers rather than purchasing from big established cos). The US has a high portion of artisan winemakers (working around finance and tech there often and I knew plenty people that had their own small vineyard! - a lot of freebies given out) so maybe they have a longer tail of potential suppliers (France, Italy and Spain got loads of little independents too...but a lot of the produce stays local).
In UK stability of supply has been a problem IMO. There are a handful of winemakers that always seem to be on site so if you want to buy their wine (typically in the £7-12 range) then generally can. But there's a lot of others that come and go rather frustratingly...and I suspect there is a business model problem there. This will lead to higher customer churn through time as wine buying can be quite habitual so if the wine you like keeps disappearing that is quite annoying (all my friends who were Naked have stopped using for this reason!...and no more twice annual booze opp as covid came and spoiled the tours that Naked put on)...
...if you just buy plonk then you can be pleased enough with service and vibe from Naked. But if you are looking for decent-ish (but not expensive) wines then the stability of what's on offer is frustrating...and that pushes people like me to other wine dealers...and as Naked want me to pay £20 per month to be in their club that just leads to a build up of cash with them that can be tricky to use (and if I want to buy a few bottles of something good I need to buy another 9 of crap to get it delivered). In UK I think this sort of model weakness will drive high attrition rates...maybe its different somehow in US. Dunno but I'd guess not and its a maturity thing
And for a more negative link on Naked, try this
http://bodegasoul.co.uk/blog/2...
Sadly, in my experience I found criticisms given here to be true re dodgy Spanish wine. One of my favourites they had was Martín Berdugo referenced in article...some really good mid priced (so for me that's roughly £15-50 wines IMO). He unceremoniously disappeared several years ago. Same has happened with a few others like him.
There's been a lot of hype on Naked Wines...so just giving my anti-hype. DYOR. Maybe be great US driven opp.
I agree re Naked Wines (LON:WINE) here in the UK. I'm one of the ex Naked Angels here and also an ex bond holder taking the interest payments in wine. There's too much competition from Aldi to the Wine Society to independent dealers. I've been a happy customer of all and just don't need a wine subscription.
The business case has to rest on the US where I think they may well build more momentum. My memories of buying wine there were pretty dire at the everyday level albeit that was in Pennsylvania when we could only buy at the state liquor store. I'm open to thinking Naked may find a larger and more secure niche there. But having cursed and sold yesterday morning I'm not so sure it's one of the best 30 or 40 potential stocks in the world that I could add back to my portfolio now.
Yes - I must admit I was a naysayer down at the 200p mark so not sure my comments have much weight but the bit I could never get my head around is why even a casual wine drinker wouldn't choose the WineSociety over Naked Wines apart from one out marketing the other. I notice the guy that originally did all the buying for Naked left to pursue other opportunities about a year ago, which also left me wondering whether this was now just a corporate machine. Once it becomes that surely the whole concept of Angels becomes a bit tired.
I know people who use Naked Wines (LON:WINE) they drink a fair amount but I would not consider them wine buffs, maybe the Wine Society looks too serious to some people.
Marketing is probably another reason, I’ve had numerous offers from WINE through my door, such as £60 worth of wine. Not had anything from the Wine Society, I suspect a lot people don’t even know about them.
They only used WINE because of lockdown, before they bought from supermarkets or local wine merchant, but now they still are not using supermarkets. Shopping habits have changed.
The future is about how the US rollout goes, I hear there are delivery issues there.
I wonder if there is more interest there in the shares, they did rally strongly in the afternoon, they went from -22% to -4% at one time. I sold most of mine yesterday.