Small Cap Value Report (Mon 29 Nov 2021) - BMK, MMH, AMGO, BAG, CRC
Good morning! It's Jack & Roland here with the SCVR for Monday.
Agenda -
Jack's section:
Benchmark Holdings (LON:BMK) - quarterly results showing an improvement in revenue and stabilisation in its markets. The company seeks to improve animal health, productivity, and welfare while reducing environmental impact. A noble aim, but the fact remains that the share price has barely moved in years, while shares in issue continue to increase, so there has been a cost to holding so far.
Amigo Holdings (LON:AMGO) - sub-prime lender that finds itself in a life or death situation just three years after listing. Placing to materially dilute shareholders and the sanctioning of a new scheme is 'increasingly urgent' in order to stave off administration. Uninvestable, in my opinion.
Circle Property (LON:CRC) - property company specialising in regional city centre office assets which it actively manages. Currently trading at around 0.75x net assets, so scope for that discount to close but the shares have already recovered to pre-Covid highs.
Roland's section:
Marshall Motor Holdings (LON:MMH): A blowout 400p per share offer for this car dealership group from the owner of BCA and WeBuyAnyCar.com. I think it’s a savvy acquisition, but I’m not sure it’s a template for other similar deals.
A G Barr (LON:BAG): Irn-Bru maker Barr’s has delivered a modest upgrade to profit guidance for the year. Management cites strong out-of-home trading and some successful recent product innovations. I remain a fan of this family-owned business, albeit with some reservations about long-term growth potential.
Preamble
So it was a fairly brutal end to last week which, in truth, caps off a tough period in the markets stretching back over a couple of months. The indexes don’t seem to reflect the reports I’m hearing from a few private investors of a slightly steeper sell off.
On top of a general souring of sentiment driven in part by supply chain disruption and inflationary pressures, we now have the developing situation of the new Covid variant, which is rattling markets and the media. Covid-sensitive travel and leisure stocks took a bath on Friday and remain exposed to shifting sentiment.
The extent of the threat posed by this new variant is unclear though. Hopefully, we are better equipped to deal with such newsflow than we were back in early 2020, but I still expect markets will remain skittish for at least a few weeks. It’s too soon to quantify the likely impact but we’ve had a very strong run over the last 12 months and so it’s not too much of a surprise to see a reaction like this.
I’m wary of getting too wrapped up in day-to-day headlines and prefer to focus on the longer term view. The market crash at the start of the pandemic shows how easy it is to let action bias take over and run the risk of missing out on the bounce, although it did also throw up some great opportunities for nimble investors. It also showed the value of pound cost averaging for those with cash on the sidelines.
It’s early days but I would like to think we’ve been through worse recently (at the risk of sounding complacent). On that note, David and his team have another Mello event tonight, so that will be a good opportunity for everyone to discuss the current conditions. You can find more info in this post, and here's the sign up link.
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Explanatory notes -
A quick reminder that we don’t recommend any stocks. We aim to review trading updates & results of the day and offer our opinions on them as possible candidates for further research if they interest you. Our opinions will sometimes turn out to be right, and sometimes wrong, because it's anybody's guess what direction market sentiment will take & nobody can predict the future with certainty. We are analysing the company fundamentals, not trying to predict market sentiment.
We stick to companies that have issued news on the day, with market caps up to about £700m. We avoid the smallest, and most speculative companies, and also avoid a few specialist sectors (e.g. natural resources, pharma/biotech).
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Jack’s section
Benchmark Holdings (LON:BMK)
Share price: 62.5p (unchanged)
Shares in issue: 670,377,484
Market cap: £419m
Benchmark Holdings is a UK-headquartered company providing advanced genetics, health and nutrition products to the global aquaculture industry. Its products are designed to help customers manage productivity and animal health/welfare, while reducing environmental impact.
Segments are Advanced Nutrition, Genetics, and Health. These sound like big markets to which a lot of value can be added through innovation, but Benchmark remains loss-making and has issued a lot of new shares over the years, which makes me wary.
Highlights:
- Revenues +48% to £37.3m, strong performance across all business areas,
- Adjusted EBITDA +51% to £7.1m,
- Adjusted operating profit +30% to £3.5m; statutory operating profit of £0.5m from a loss of £2.8m,
- Loss before tax from continuing operations of -£3.2m (Q4 2020: -£2.9m),
- Basic loss per share has improved from -1.43p to -0.91p due to improved performance in discontinued operations,
- Net debt excluding leases has increased from £27.1m to £56.9m.
Advanced nutrition revenue is up by 41% to £17.1m and adjusted EBITDA has improved markedly, from £0.2m to £3.6m in the quarter.
The increase in Adjusted EBITDA margin reflects higher sales, as well as growth in diets (which have a higher margin) and ongoing cost control. The Americas remain challenging partly because of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic and logistical difficulties.
Genetics revenue grew by 35% to £15.9m, with adjusted EBITDA falling from £4.6m to £3.3m.
Top line growth was driven by higher sales of salmon eggs and higher harvest revenues. The fall in EBITDA is due to an increase in operating costs and R&D expenses as operations normalise. Salmon performed well and the group has a leading position here, expanding its incubation facility in Iceland and expanding in Chile.
Health revenue grew from £1.4m to £4.3m, with adjusted EBITDA up from £0.2m to £1.1m.
Revenues in Q4 FY21 from continuing operations of £4.3m were significantly above the prior year due to first sales from Benchmark’s new Ectosan® Vet and CleanTreat® solution.
Trading and outlook -
- Recovery in global shrimp markets with potential to bounce back to pre-COVID-19 levels,
- Stable salmon markets; demand growth continues to exceed global supply,
- The seabass and seabream market have substantially recovered,
- Trading in line with FY22 expectations.
Balance sheet - there’s some £229m of intangibles here, making up 47.5% of total assets. Strip that out and there’s £50.6m of net tangible asset value. Cash of £39.5m does not cover current liabilities of £63.5m, but the current ratio as a whole is reasonable at 1.95x.
It looks fine at first glance, although there’s a large decrease in cash (with a c£32m net decrease) following a combined £22.7m spent on intangible and physical investments.
Management flags refinancing as a risk in its Going Concern note, however:
However, it should be noted that the Group's main borrowing facilities are set to expire within the next 19 months - the $15m RCF is set to expire in December 2022, and the NOK 850m bond is due to expire in June 2023. The cashflow forecasts reviewed rely on these borrowing facilities being in place. The Directors have commenced a review of the capital structure including certain short term actions and also longer term financing options, and are confident that these facilities can be renewed or replaced before they expire, with trading going well despite the headwinds of the pandemic and relationships with finance providers strong. Cash resources continue to remain strong with the group managing discretionary spend closely as recovery from the pandemic progresses.
Based on their assessment, the Directors believe it remains appropriate to prepare the financial statements on a going concern basis. However, while the Directors remain confident that the current facilities will be renewed or replaced in the next 19 months, the requirement to renew represents a material uncertainty that may cast significant doubt on the Group's and Company's ability to continue as a going concern and therefore to continue realising their assets and discharging their liabilities in the normal.
So that’s something to bear in mind going forward.
Conclusion
Benchmark may well be reaching an inflection point, but there has been an opportunity cost to holding its shares so far. Brokers forecast a small profit in FY22 of 0.72p per share, which would give an FY22 PER of 86.8x.
So the investment case hinges on generating significantly larger profits than that in the medium term. That's not something I have a view on, but perhaps holders can add more value here in the comments.
Meanwhile, shares in issue have grown at a compound annual growth rate of 25%, from 202m in FY15 to more than 670m today. Another placing is announced today, 33.1m shares in exchange for £20.5m. It's not the kind of track record that typically interests me.
I see the attraction of exposure to an important, sustainable source of protein (fish and crustaceans), but that doesn’t mean Benchmark is necessarily the way to gain that exposure. And it’s also just not an area I know too much about, so it would take a lot to convince me to part with my cash here.
Amigo Holdings (LON:AMGO)
Share price: 8.05p (-24.75%)
Shares in issue: 475,333,760
Market cap: £38.3m
Amigo is a sub-prime lender to those who can't borrow from traditional lenders due to their credit histories. It provides guarantor loans, introducing a second individual to the lending relationship (typically a family member or friend with a stronger credit profile) who undertakes to make loan payments if the borrower does not.
This can be a dubious area of business. There are good actors, but ethical and reputational risks are always a concern.
In Amigo’s case, it looks like you can add some pretty stark company-specific risks too. This short update from Paul back in June 2020 provides an interesting bit of context:
Some fractious comments from the outgoing Chairman in today's update. Large liabilities appear to have arisen from customers lodging complaints. Deal to sell the company has fallen through because of the economic situation. Looks very high risk to me.
Add to that its classification as a ‘Highly Speculative Value Trap’ with limited liquidity, and I suspect the risks might make this one uninvestable. It’s been a pretty disastrous IPO, with a low StockRank most of the way.
- Number of customers -42% to 102,000,
- Net loan book -53.8% to £224.1m,
- Revenue -38.8% to £56.5m,
- Impairment coverage improved from 14% to 22.5%,
- Profit before tax of £2.1m, up from a loss of £62.6m,
- Adjusted basic earnings per share up from -12.2p to 0.4p.
Amigo leads with the following update on developments:
Following the Court not sanctioning the original proposed Scheme of Arrangement ("Scheme") in May 2021, the Board continues to pursue a new Scheme to address the complaints liability and provide a solution for customers with a valid complaint.
An independent Customer Committee has been set up in response to the recommendations of the judge at Amigo's High Court Scheme sanction hearing ‘to ensure the voice of customers is heard’. This reads like a case of the potential ethical and reputational risks alluded to above.
While neither of our proposed Schemes is expected to satisfy the liability owed to redress creditors with valid claims in full, the contribution to the new Scheme will be significantly increased. This is, in large part, due to improved collections relative to the assumptions made for the first Scheme, in December 2020, when the impact of Covid-19 remained highly uncertain, as well as the delayed implementation of balance adjustments on the loan book.
Amigo will be proposing an equity raise alongside the Scheme to support the future business. This is likely to result in material dilution which will lead to existing shareholders owning a much smaller proportion of the group if they do not take up their rights. The Board is also considering an early part repayment or repurchase of the senior secured notes.
As noted previously, the sanctioning of a new Scheme is increasingly urgent. Without an approved Scheme, Amigo expects to have to file for administration or other insolvency process.
Conclusion
I’ll leave it there for now - safe to say this is not an appealing situation given the upcoming material dilution, substantial complaints liability, and very real prospect of administration.
This kind of bombed-out stock always attracts speculators and traders due to lottery-like upside, but the risks are huge, so it’s not of interest personally. The market cap is still around £40m, so plenty further to fall if sentiment deteriorates further. Astonishing to think JP Morgan et al managed to float this in 2018 for c£1.3bn.
Circle Property (LON:CRC)
Share price: 205p (-0.49%)
Shares in issue: 28,551,796
Market cap: £58.5m
Circle invests in, develops, and actively manages regional office assets. It is not a Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT), so that gives it more flexibility to actively manage and drive asset values.
At present, it has a portfolio of 12 regional commercial property investment and development assets in the UK valued at £130m.
Our regional office portfolio has performed resiliently in the period. As increasing numbers of workers have returned to their offices, the importance of having an environment to meet, collaborate, mentor and train employees is clear. Whilst working patterns have changed, the office continues to play an integral role for many businesses.
Highlights:
- Unaudited NAV steady at £2.74, implying a price to NAV of 0.75x,
- Group loan to value of 46.6%, with £8.6m of cash making for a net LTV of 40%,
- Operating profit after revaluation of investment properties of £2.1m (H1 2020: £0.146m)
- Earnings per share of 4p (H1 2020: 2p)
- Proposed interim dividend of 3.5p per share, ahead of 2020 and 2019 pay-outs (H1 2020: 2.5p / H1 2019: 3.3p)
- Rental income of £3.2m (H1 2020: £3.9m), down largely due to disposals and corresponding loss of income.
Group LTV is expected to reduce further following the completion of the disposal of One Castle Park in December 2021.
Refurbishment underway at properties in Milton Keynes and Birmingham. Contracts exchanged for two disposals in Bristol - one for £20m, a 3.9% increase on 31 March 2021 valuation of £19.25m, and the other for £3.961m (a 62% increase on post-refurbishment valuation of £1.55m).
Conclusion
Given the sales above recent valuations, there could be value here.
The “work from home” argument is valid but could overshoot, as could the idea that the office is dead. Reality is rarely so dramatic and instead tends to tread a more pedestrian middle ground.
That said, the shares have already recovered well.
A 3.16% forecast yield is useful, but there could be better income candidates out there. I don’t see why the shares can’t close the gap to net asset value, which suggests maybe a 20-30% rerating in time if all goes well. The sales ahead of market value bode well for the £20m of assets held for sale on the balance sheet, although ongoing disposals will reduce rental income as well.
Not particularly exciting, with perhaps better value opportunities to be expected in the weeks ahead.
Roland’s section
Marshall Motor Holdings (LON:MMH)
Share price: 274p (pre-open)
Shares issue: 78.2m
Market cap: £274m (pre-open)
One minute before the market closed on Friday, car dealership group Marshalls put out a RNS statement acknowledging bid speculation. This morning we have the offer.
Constellation Automotive will pay 400p per share for MMH, valuing the group at £322.9m. It has already secured the agreement of the controlling shareholder Marshall of Cambridge (Holdings), which owns 64.4% of MMH.
The offer price represents a 41% premium to Friday’s closing price of 283p and an 87% premium to the stock’s 12-month volume-weighted average price of 214p. I think it’s a pretty strong offer. With the backing of the controlling shareholder, I think it’s almost certain to go through, so congratulations to holders here.
Unprecedented vertical integration: I’ll look at the value (or not) of the offer in a moment. But I think it’s worth taking a closer look at the buyer here. Constellation Automotive owns WeBuyAnyCar.com, BCA (used vehicle auctions and logistics) and Cinch, the online used car dealer. Together, these businesses provide a high degree of vertical integration in used car retail, spanning the whole used car value chain. All of Constellation’s businesses have a very strong digital presence.
By adding Marshalls, Constellation will extend its reach to include new car sales, physical retail locations and valuable relationships with major manufacturers. Owning a dealership group will also provide new opportunities for sourcing and retailing used cars, and expand the scale of Constellation’s financing operations.
On balance, I think this is a canny acquisition by Constellation. I’ve been consistently impressed with Marshall’s financial performance in recent years and have also had a good experience as a customer. I think it’s one of the best-run UK dealership groups.
Fair value? Car dealership groups are making exceptional profits at the moment, due to the shortage of new cars. This has enabled dealers to expand their profit margins on new and used car sales. I expect this to be a temporary boost until the supply chain normalises - that’s a view reflected in broker forecasts, which suggest profits could halve next year.
According to broker forecasts I can see, Marshall is expected to report an operating profit of £62m this year, compared to c.£30m in both 2019 and 2020.
This mean’s that today’s offer represents 5 times current year forecast operating profit, and around 11 times a more typical level of operating profit.
Is Constellation in danger of overpaying for Marshalls? I thought so at first, but having looked more closely, I’m not so sure.
Constellation has said that it will review Marshall’s operating model and property portfolio over the 12 months following the completion of the deal. Marshall’s has c.£140m of freehold/long leasehold property and minimal leverage. Constellation should be able to extract some value to offset the acquisition cost, if needed.
As a vertically-integrated group, I suspect the deal should also deliver margin improvements and cross-sellling opportunities.
On balance, the price looks pretty full to me, but not unjustifiable.
Are other dealership groups likely to receive bids? UK car dealership groups have looked cheap for many years, and tend to have attractive freehold property portfolios.
However, the current level of profitability doesn’t seem likely to be sustainable. Forecasts for both Marshalls and Vertu (I hold) suggest a 50% drop in earnings next year. Personally, I’m not sure the economics of the Marshall acquisition would be so attractive to a private equity buyer.
But given the changing nature of the car retail business and the pace with which sales are moving online, I can see the opportunity for further consolidation or trade sales in this sector.
Personally, I won’t be buying more shares in car groups at current levels, but I am still comfortable holding the ones I have.
A G Barr (LON:BAG)
Share price: 485p (+3.8% at 08:40)
Shares in issue: 112m
Market cap: £544m
“Full-year profit now expected to be ahead of current market expectations”
Barr’s best-known drink, Irn-Bru, enjoyed a moment in the limelight at the recent COP26 conference in Glasgow. Due to a sponsorship deal with the event organisers, Barr’s were the only soft drinks available in the conference building. The impact on sales was probably negligible, but the press coverage generated by journalists interviewing foreign visitors about Irn-Bru can’t have done any harm.
In any case, it looks like Barr’s business is starting to recover from the hit to sales caused by the collapse in out-of-home consumption last year.
Today’s trading update reports strong sales in both the soft drinks and Funkin business unit. Funkin produces pre-mixed fruit syrups and other flavourings used to make cocktails. The firm’s products are sold to the pub sector and through supermarkets.
Barr’s says that performance in the “on the go” and hospitality sectors remains particularly strong. Recent product innovations are said to have “exceeded our expectations”.
Supply chain challenges are mentioned, but the company says that its production and wider supply chain have “maintained their resilience and supported the growth in volume”.
As a result, profits for the year to 24 January are now expected to be ahead of expectations. Happily, the company has provided clear guidance, so we’re not left guessing:
- Revenue c.£264m
- Pre-tax profit c.£41m
To put these numbers in context, consensus forecasts prior to today were for revenue of £256m and pre-tax profit of £38m. So these numbers represent an upgrade of around 3% to revenue and 7% to profits.
That’s a nice demonstration of the impact of operating leverage - as Barr’s business becomes busier, its fixed costs are spread more thinly across increased volumes. This increases the profitability of each sale and the wider business.
My view: I’ve long had a favourable impression of Barr’s. The business remain part-owned by the family and is also held by noted long-term UK fund managers Lindsell Train and Keith Ashworth-Lord’s Sanford Deland:
The business scores well for quality and has consistently reported a net cash balance for many years:
My main concern about Barr’s has been whether core products such as Irn-Bru, Ice Cream Soda and Dandelion & Burdock would remain relevant as consumer tastes changed - and if not, whether the company would be able to replace them with new commercial offerings.
So far, my caution seems to have been misplaced. The acquisition of Funkin Brands appears to have been a success and the group’s core soft drink offerings remain popular, albeit mostly within the UK only.
However, I think some caution is still merited. Sales and profits are expected to remain below 2019’s peak level for at least the next year:
The company also remains heavily dependent on its core soft drinks business, which generates the majority of sales and is far more profitable than other operating segments.
These numbers were obviously affected by various lockdowns and hospitality sector closures last year. But I think they demonstrate where the bulk of the business still lies.
Quality at a reasonable price? Barr’s shares are up modestly today, reflecting the company’s upgraded profit guidance. At current levels I estimate the stock trades on around 18 times forecast earnings, falling to perhaps 16 times in FY23.
Broker forecasts suggest the dividend will be reinstated at close to pre-pandemic levels this year, giving a prospective yield of more than 3%.
I’d say the shares are probably fairly priced at current levels. If I was looking to build a position here, I might consider buying after today’s news, given the proven quality of this business.
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59 comments
This is a strictly unofficial 'cool it or lose it' message beamed out on behalf of everyone who abhors useless and unproductive conflict.
Ten deep breaths please before any posting. Better still ... leave it until the morning.
I don't know him but Jack seems a smart and measured person, I listen to what he says , and believe you'll be in good hands with his advice :)
Off topic I know, but nice to hear Paul's sis/sis-in-law (I forget which) had a track played on Scala Radio just now.
Hi Paul/Jack,
Re AMGO (LON:AMGO). Paul I agree with Jack that the company looks investable but wouldn't one expect the Stock Ranks to indicate that. Instead we have
Quality 23
Value 75 ????
Momentum 41
Ovarall Stock Rank 41
I've always been wary of the Ranks. At the beginning I thought they were a bit gimmicky and I appreciate there will always be a lag but surely the ratings for this company should all be in the red ( and Value Rank at 75 - surely not)
Sorry, didn't notice in time to edit but, obviously, "investable" should read "uninvestable". My sincere apologies.
surprised that no one has mentioned AJ Bell "s foray into commission free trading using a new app called dodi
Please tell us more. I’m an AJBell customer. Going to look this up now.
I’ve just looked up the FT article on the new AJBell app. It’s Not out until spring.
https://amp.ft.com/content/560...
Can anyone tell me what is the catch? I.e. how do they make money? Is it like the zero commission travel money firms that rip you off on the exchange rate?
I’m currently very happy with the AJBell platform.
I think the commission free platforms make their money by increased spreads but might be wrong ?
Very interesting to see that Marshall Motor Holdings (LON:MMH) has had a takeover bid. We've been saying for a while here at the SCVR that the car dealer sector looks ripe for bid approaches - because of the freehold property backing, combined with super-normal profits due to strange market conditions at the moment. Private equity has an opportunity to do sale & leasebacks on the property, and load them up with bank debt, thus allowing them to acquire the equity for practically nothing.
Also, many traditional car dealers are matching the online offerings of supposedly (but not actually) disruptive new entrants like Cazoo.
It'll be interesting to see how this pans out. I'm wondering whether I should buy a basket of car dealer shares, in order to get increased exposure to takeover bids, or stick to my existing favourite (due to its extreme balance sheet strength) of Vertu Motors (LON:VTU) (I hold).
Everyone knows profits are going to fall, normalising, in future. But remember that a period of bumper profits leaves behind a stronger balance sheet, and cash, which can be used to pay special divis, do buybacks, fund acquisitions, etc. The way double entry bookkeeping works, is that the bottom line (profit after tax) is reset to zero each year, and the other side of the entry ends up as increased NAV on the balance sheet - permanent increase in shareholder value.
Regards, Paul.
I'd just like to give a big hat-tip to Paul for his public apology for what in the great scheme of things was a very small mistake. It shows the bravery, honesty and character of the man to do that. One of the best.
Was he not instructed to do so?
Was he not instructed to do so?
Yes, and I said no! Then we had a discussion over several days, Jack mediated, and persuaded me that it was the right thing to do. Hence my apology is sincere, and what I believe is the right thing to do.
Nobody instructs me to do anything, just to be clear! ;-) Seriously, I'm one of the most stubborn & independent-minded people on the planet, so will only ever do something if I think it is right.
Paul.
Also, the wording of my apology is precisely my own words. I refused to allow any amendments to it.
That is the end of this (trivial) matter.
Firstly you called me some names that I am embarrassed to repeat , then I get an apology and then you comment further that the matter was a TRIVIAL one.
The matter was not a trivial one , the matter was very serious indeed. I have my opinion and you have yours. I personally cannot just insult people because they have an opposite opinion. Most of the times listening to different opinion make us wiser.
My comment was that many of the suggestions or recommendations here were looking like they were heading for that magic word STOP-LOSS ( or margin calls ) something very very very common in financial markets , especially when an enormous amount of retail is involved ( and something that I have seen with my own eyes on countless occasions ).
A couple of days ago you have confirmed this by writing that you had to sell HEADLAM ( you actually used the word ‘ culled ‘) in order to cover margin calls for other positions falling.
The funny thing though was that I did not mean only your suggestions or opinions , ( and certainly I meant different suggestions expressed here INCLUDING MY OWN!! )
I was just expressing an honest and valid opinion , one that you have confirmed yourself.
Having worked in the industry for 20+ years ( as an investment advisor) , and having retired 5 years ago , it is right for me to say that your analysis is one of the best I have ever read ( simple and straight to the point ). Whether I agree with your timing on certain calls , this is a completely different issue and it is here that everyone should and must do their own research. Your analysis is HONEST and is a CREDIT to you , and indeed very helpful to people with no financial or accounting background.
Keep up the good , honest and hard work Paul.
We move on.
Some of that is true, some is not.
Anyway, as you say, we move on.
EVERY SINGLE WORD
Enjoy your evening.
No.
I do not use stop losses on individual shares.
That has been your main point all along, and it is categorically UNTRUE.
You seem to have misinterpreted something about HEAD - which I chose to close, on a portfolio trim, which is routine, in my margin account. There was no stop loss, because I don't use stop losses.
Maybe in future, you could just ask a question, instead of throwing untrue accusations out, cunningly concealed as a non-specific accusation (which doesn't fool anyone, by the way).
Do you think that I'm feeling more or less likely to discuss things openly, having been subjected to your snipes (and from others too, quite regularly)? The answer is obvious - it's no. I'll say less, and be more private in future.
I do not know nor have i any interest in what you do with your investments , and it is not my place to anyway.
I said STOP-LOSS ( margin calls ).
And I was referring to different opinions , recommendations and/or suggestions.
INCLUDING MINE
Cunningly concealed???
Who do you think I am???
Spider-Man????????
i will not answer to any other comment or any other insult coming from you.
Keep up the good and honest work.
OVER
That's a gentlemanly apology, Paul. The world is full of trolls. It's never worth replying.
Did you actually read any of the messages concerned before throwing in that insult?
Got to agree. FREng clearly decided it was up to him to say something nice to Paul ... and reading the messages and thinking about their content just didn't come into the equation. Well done, FREng!
Here is the Activeops (LON:AOM) interim results presentation given to analysts last Thursday including Q&A. Video & podcast. Positive results, revenue +22%, Training and Implementation +137% following CV19. Still making an ebitda loss, with growth driven at the top line. Cash £10.9m. Added 5 new customer logos. 60% increase in software development capacity. "Increased confidence in delivering a positive FY performance, slightly ahead of the Board's expectations."
A good (PIWORLD) interview here by Alexandra Jackson, Fund Manager of Rathbone UK Opportunities Fund. A good discussion about her stock selection criteria, valuations and UK tech. She's most engaging.
Later this week we have results webinars for:
Tpximpact Holdings (LON:TPX) (formerly The Panoply) H1 results with CEO & CFO. Register here.
Sosandar (LON:SOS) H1 results with Co-CEOs and CFO. Register here.
I thought this was a very good Twitter thread on what we reliably know about the new variant so far: https://twitter.com/trvrb/stat...
I think the key next milestone will be the early readouts from vaccine companies in about 2-3 weeks' time (I think?) about how their products perform against this new variant. On COVID treatments, the other main hope for being able to live with the virus, unfortunately it looks like monoclonal antibody Ronapreve would not work against the variant and late Friday Merck said antiviral Molnupiravir was generally less effective than previously thought - and that data is just in an unvaccinated population. This article from the FT was helpful in summarising the vaccine/treatment situation: https://www.ft.com/content/a7a...
I know the media can blow things up regularly but I have to say that, based on early reading, the makeup of this new variant does look genuinely worrying and I am going to cash out of some stocks that I have less confidence in or are treading water at the moment and not due an update for a few months to keep some money on the sidelines for buying during potential major dips to come.
Hi Jack - Re A G Barr (LON:BAG) - which I held some years ago - for me, this is a situation where I would be put off by the very factors you suggest as favourable. The two funds mentioned - LT UK and Buffetology have not performed well over the past year and fallen out of favour and Yes, there is 15% held by one of the founding family - but that can be an impediment - too emotionally involved. BTW - if you look on diggitallook, it has a different list of major shareholders - just LT and Troy ? Finally their main drink - IrnBru is, well - like marmite!
A G Barr (LON:BAG) I agree about IrnBru, I was involved with managing a bar once and we did stock IrnBru when our usual drink was not available, we had a hell of a job shifting it, only had 24 cans. I believe it is popular in Scotland. So the main brand puts me off investing.
Bojo certainly does
Marshall Motor Holdings (LON:MMH) (I hold)
Rookie question about how it works now: do I wait and they'll contact me to offer the 400p per share, or do I sell on the open market?
This is my first takeover situation where I've owned shares. Thank you, Stockslam and Stockopedia screening capability!
There are usually three things you can do.
1. wait until the deal is done and you will receive the 400p in your account. You don't have to do anything.
2. If you have any doubts, you could sell half now for what the current price is and the rest at 400p when the deal is done.
3. If there is a big risk the deal might not go through then you could sell all today.
Marshall Motor Holdings (LON:MMH)
Rookie question about how it works now: do I wait and they'll contact me to offer the 400p per share, or do I sell on the open market?
Generally you are gambling somwhat (or alot) if you hold on - there is always the danger that any takeover may fall through. Presuming one holder has 64% and has decided to sell and the price being offered is decent premium being paid "with cash" - seems highly likely deal will go through - but absolutley nbo certainties.
Generally the price may settle at below offer price - if market things price may dip back down if this deal does fall through. This appears to be the case here and is probably reasonably normal - take 390p now or wait for 400p - on the risk the offer may fall through. Have a look back of what went wrong with revolution to see that there is very little certainty in anything in this regard!
Price may settle above offer price if market belives this may be start of bidding war. Decent premium being paid here suggests to me its slightly unlikely rioal offer will come along - but who knows - this is probably a sector perefect for consolidation so anything is possible.
I was happy to sell - got a nice return in the bank as opposed to holding the profit on paper, and freed up capital for some of the other good buys around at the moment. I'm not sure who else would outbid as this seems a good price, but I am not an expert...
Also depends on whether you are desperate to reinvest the cash and are worried your target's price might not be available in 2 months? time when you get the cash.
If you're in no rush you can sit back and see if there's a competing bid. There's no charge for waiting but there is for selling, although saving a tenner probably isn't relevant to most holdings.
As in all things investing, there's no one answer, everybody and situation is different.
wait is usually the best policy.
I believe Marshall Motor Holdings (LON:MMH) and other second hand car dealers should have a very good 2022 provided they can source vehicles as I understand the microchip supply chain won't change until H2 at the earliest. New capacity not expected to come on stream til June/July. Same for reinstatement of the capacity lost due to a fire (in Japan?). It's bound to take some time for the gaps in various industries to then be filled and production pick up. And that's without any further COVID concerns.
If you know differently please say.
Happy holding Vertu Motors (LON:VTU) wish I'd been in this one too. Well done holders.
Omicron is now in Scotland. Prepare to be Sturgeon-ed!!
Its probably more hope than based on any scientific fact but I remember in the early days of Covid there was an expectation that as it mutated it would get more transmissible (which is what it has done) but less severe overtime (which it hasn't yet at least noticeably.)
There are some early unreliable reports that the new strain isn't creating as many symptoms as the previous one and therefore might become even more like a normal flu. Its all very depressing at the moment and maybe I just trying to cling to some hope
Catching it is the only proximate cure
Is it just a coincidence that the new variant
OMRICON B is an anagram of NO CRIMBO??
Roland, Constellation is a PE bidder for £MMH. They are owned by TDR Capital.
https://www.tdrcapital.com/our...
£arc down 20% today. Another rubbish tip by Investors Chronicle.
At least ST is wrong in 1 in 10 or maybe 2 in 10 of his recommendations , therefore by diversifying you are still making good money.
Whereas if you add up some of the recommendations ELSEWHERE , even by diversifying you are still well down.
I'm significantly down on about 15 of ST's 'buys' and that excludes two that are suspended. And I pay for these recommendations? Yes, agreed re those 'elsewhere' too. More scepticism required in 2022.
2022 and beyond!!
ST clearly doesn’t do meaningful work on his tips. He recommends micro caps in a bull market with a strong persistent liquidity push from punters.
When the magic stops (ie liquid bull market) following ST could be very costly imo.
Personally, I think his dodgy tips on small stuff he hasn’t done work on but whilst everyone follows gets a nice push from crowd following is really low quality by IC.
He doesn’t have skin in the game either as he’s running a spreadsheet not a portfolio. Total fluff
what mojo said *and* if you have a long memory, cast your mind back to the various chinese AIM frauds that happened a few years ago, it looks like ST takes a position that information issued by a company to the market should be taken at face value (believed) whereas other commentators were not so trusting.
Good morning Jack. Marshall Motor Holdings (MMH) - your comments on the 400p trade offer at close of trading last Friday would be appreciated.
Morning Rebirth,
Roland has good experience in this sector, so he's taking a look at it now. Should be up soon.
Re Marshall Motor Holdings (LON:MMH) That’s an attractive premium and looks a done deal. I don’t see any mention of the car manufacturers giving their blessing as there was with MMH’s recent deal so perhaps the announcement had to be rushed out due to press leaks? The acquirer is big enough that it should be a formality? but I’m no trade expert.
Vertu Motors (LON:VTU) and Lookers (LON:LOOK) both up in early trading so perhaps more consolidation expected and one less target left. I hold all three but on balance think I’ll take the profit today on £MMH. Any other acquirers may prefer to look at another dealer rather than bid MMH up further.
Who’s next?
Answering my own question, I have sold my Marshall Motor Holdings (LON:MMH) and bought Bt (LON:BT.A)
Ag Barr £barr good trading statement this morning big cash on balance sheet
Good indication for Revolution Bars (LON:RBG)
Why? is A G Barr (LON:BAG) IRN BRU sold a lot in Revolution Bars (LON:RBG) ;-)
A G Barr (LON:BAG) pulled a blinder over COP, loads of good advertising from participants. I wonder if they'll be able to open up international sales as a result?