Small Cap Value Report (Tue 3 August 2021) - BLV, COG, NWF, JOUL, RST
Good morning, it's Paul & Jack here with the SCVR for Tuesday.
Timing - today's report is now finished.
Explanatory notes -
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Individual company discussion
I've been getting frustrated because we don't have anywhere to chat about, and swap views & information (press articles, etc) on individual companies. Everything tends to get sucked into the SCVRs, and then can be rather scattered about.
So I thought we would trial having some individual company, general discussion threads, to have a single place for general chat about companies. Instead of having to delve into the dreadful negative energy of other free bulletin boards elsewhere, where the default attitude seems to be replying to any posts with personal attacks on the poster! We can do better than that here.
Here are the trial threads I've set up for 3 companies which I like to chat about. I'll still report on them in the SCVRs on relevant trading updates & results statements, these threads are for anything else (and we can cross-link them on results days). I have personal holdings in all 3 of these -
Sosandar (SOS) general discussion thread
Saga (SAGA) general discussion thread
Revolution Bars (RBG) general discussion thread
If people like the idea, then we can extend it to any shares you want. Readers can set up your own threads of course, feel free to use the same title format.
Hopefully this way, if we use these threads, we can build some useful individual company discussions.
Agenda -
Paul's Section:
Cambridge Cognition Holdings (LON:COG) (I hold) - another positive trading update, and broker raises FY 12/2021 forecast revenues by 19%. Order book surges further, and the company is now profitable. Cash has gone up, so very little dilution risk now I think. Lots to like!
Joules (LON:JOUL) - (I hold) - another fairly big personal holding of mine, so I've spent some time on its FY 05/2021 results. Bounced back into profit. Very strong online sales, now the bulk of its operations. Difficult to value at the moment, but I'm a happy long-term holder. I see this as a very distinctive brand, with a promising long-term future, especially now it has a successful marketplace website, accelerating growth.
Restore (LON:RST) - major shareholders oppose approach from Marlowe (LON:MRL)
Jack's section:
Belvoir (LON:BLV) - market conditions are proving to be more favourable for these property franchise companies than might have been expected at the start of the pandemic. Strong business model, organic and acquisitive growth opps, plus 'substantial rental increases on the horizon'.
Nwf (LON:NWF) - solid results from an enterprise established way back in 1871. Margins are low, but so is the earnings multiple, and the group has a strong track record as a dividend payer.
Paul’s Section
Cambridge Cognition Holdings (LON:COG)
(I hold)
165p - mkt cap £52m
Cambridge Cognition Holdings Plc (AIM: COG), which develops and markets digital solutions to assess brain health, is pleased to announce a positive trading update for the six months ended 30 June 2021.
Summary from the company -
Strong financial performance with growth in revenues and sales orders of 50% and 74%, respectively
Key figures -
- H1 revenue £4.5m (up 50% on H1 LY)
- H1 EBITDA positive at £0.2m (improved from a negative £(0.3)m loss in H1 LY)
- Order intake in H1 above expectations at £8.6m (including 2 previously announced unusually large orders totalling £3.6m)
- Order backlog - big growth in the order book last year was the main signal that the company’s turnaround was gaining traction, and it’s improved further, up another 36% in the last 6 months, to £15.2m
- Cash up by £1.2m in 6 months, to £4.2m (that’s the same as net cash, because COG doesn’t have any borrowings) - therefore dilution risk now looks negligible
- Covid impact “minimal”, and has helped drive demand for remote clinical trials. This looks as if it could be a structural change potentially, because the company says -
“interest in virtual clinical trials as a result of the pandemic continues and more orders for home testing solutions were taken”
Outlook -
The outlook remains positive and the Company remains on track to be profitable in 2021. The Company has an attractive forward pipeline of opportunities, although, at this time, without the rare, one-off opportunities highlighted in the previous two half-year periods.
With increasing investment in commercial activities and continued product development, the Company is well positioned for further year-on-year revenue growth.
The rising cash balance provides the business with further opportunities to invest for future growth.
Diary date - 21 Sept for interim results (to 30 June 2021), with an investor presentation on the same day - see today’s RNS for registration details.
Forecasts raised - thanks to Finncap for its update note today, which significantly raises forecast revenue by 19% to £10.1m for this year FY 12/2021. A key point is that operational gearing is very high at COG, as its gross margin is c.80%. Therefore as the top line builds, it has a positive, geared effect on the bottom line profits.
In this case the company is also spending more on overheads, which blunts the profit growth - Finncap’s forecasts shows overheads rising 27% to £7.5m. That’s fine by me, it’s a growth company, so I’d rather management take full advantage of the opportunities, if they can generate a good return from increased spending (e.g. on R&D), rather than run the company on a shoestring for profits & divis. We have to trust management to manage the overheads wisely.
I’m ignoring Finncap’s new forecast for FY 12/2022 which shows growth almost shuddering to a halt, which doesn’t make sense to me, given the rapidly rising order book.
My opinion - firstly a quick moan. I have no idea why the company reports EBITDA rather than proper profit before tax in its trading updates? Many investors (including me) view EBITDA with suspicion, as an inflated number that ignores a whole bunch of real world costs. So that forced me to check last year’s numbers. In this case the depreciation, amortisation, and finance charges are very small (£143k last full year), and tax is negative, so there’s no benefit at all to reporting EBITDA, it would be much better to report PBT or PAT, in my view.
Overall I’m very happy with progress at COG, it’s playing out very much as I hoped. The company is now profitable, growing rapidly, and seems to be enjoying a favourable sector shift towards cognitive testing for drugs trials being done remotely, in peoples homes, rather than in person. This plays to COG’s strengths, and is what its services are aimed at. Hence the pandemic seems to have turbocharged COG’s business, and prospects. Remote testing is much easier, and more efficient, so it’s difficult to see why the pharma clients would go back to doing it the old way. If that’s correct, then COG could be at the start of a long-term, lucrative business model, with a considerable moat, and little competition.
That could make this a valuable company in the long term.
I did top slice a few, when dealing with margin calls on my geared account recently, but am determined to hold tight on the remainder. I’ve not touched any in my SIPP, as they’re safe, not being geared. In total I think it’s about my 4th largest personal portfolio position, so high conviction on this one.
Anyway, so far so good. It’s already been a multibagger, and if current performance & growth continues, then I think a >£100m market cap is a possibility.
With the move into profitability, rising cash pile, and good visibility from the growing order book (which spans several years), then I perceive very much reduced risk compared with where we were say two years ago. The company seems to have been transformed over that time, by CEO Matthew Stork and his team, who gave the company a much more commercial focus, which is clearly paying off now.
There’s a lovely chart below too, clearly reflecting the company’s transformed performance and prospects over the last 3 years. Even the StockRank has dragged itself out of the red!
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Joules (LON:JOUL)
(I hold)
258.5p (down 4%, at 11:56) - mkt cap £289m
Joules is a British lifestyle Group comprising the Joules brand, the fast-growing Friends of Joules digital marketplace, and Garden Trading, a leading digital-led brand in the home, garden and outdoor category.
Annual Results for the 52-week period ended 30 May 2021
There’s a lot of detailed commentary in this announcement, so I’ve had to weigh up digesting as much as possible, with getting a report up here before the 1pm email distribution. So I’ve jotted down the key points, as I see it, rather than trying to regurgitate everything in the RNS.
- Revenues £199.0m FY 05/2021, up 4% on LY
- Stripping out the £8.7m revenues for the c.4 months of Garden Trading (acquired 9 Feb 2021), then LFL (like-for-like) revenues would have been down £0.5m, basically flat on last year.
- Covid disruption closed the stores for 6 months this year, and 2 months last year, so achieving flat revenues is very impressive in the circumstances
- eCommerce revenues very strong, up 48% to £122m, or +43% LFL - which we already knew from previous trading updates - Joules should now be seen as mainly an eCommerce business - 77% of retail sales are online, and were strong & growing pre-pandemic. Some likely to shift back to stores this year
- Store & country shows - sales fell from £63.2m LY to £36.6m due to extended closures.
- Don’t ignore the strong growth in “other” revenues to £5.1m up 132% - this includes very high margin income from the Friends of Joules online marketplace (where partners do all the logistics, Joules just collects in a commission), and growth in lucrative licensing revenues.
- Profitability - bounced back from losses last year - underlying £6.1m PBT, versus £(3.9)m loss LY. Although that’s been mainly generated by taxpayer support measures of £4.6m furlough, and £2.3m business rates relief. Mind you, if the furlough scheme had not been used, Joules and other companies would have had no alternative but to make many redundancies, so the P&L effect might have worked out the same, by a different route.
- Exceptional costs are material, at £4.2m - mainly £2.9m non-cash impairment charge of leases & fixed assets (see note 3).
- Statutory profit is £2.0m, versus a thumping £(24.8)m loss last year.
- Gross margin - hit by increased freight costs, down from 50.7% to 49.0%
- Brexit - estimated to have cost JOUL £0.8-1.0m in additional duty & transport costs. Looking at ways to mitigate this partially.
- Net cash £4.1m, with plenty of headroom on bank facility - oddly, this bank facility is ESG-linked, which seems a step too far to me, but whatever.
- No divis yet - fine, it’s a growth company, I’d rather they use cashflows to make more acquisitions like Garden Trading, which was reasonably priced, and has done well.
- Tom Joule - stepping down to 1-day per week NED - might be perceived as a negative, as things often go wrong when a founder steps back.
- Current trading - in line with management expectations. I would have liked more detail on this, as there’s a wide range of broker forecasts out there.
- International - seems small, opportunity for future growth? A quintessentially British brand should prove popular in many overseas markets, as other brands have proven.
- Big depreciation charge of £16.0m stood out as unusual, but half of it is those awful IFRS 16 property lease adjustments.
- Marketing spend of £11.3m (up 22%) seems very high - but I see this as positive, because it drives growth, and makes it harder for smaller competitors to compete.
- Head office costs very high at £29.1m - the business seems to have an overhead for a much larger business - over-spending, or an opportunity for profits to increase fast as it grows?
Balance sheet - OK, but not amazing. NAV is £44.2m, but once we strip out the intangible assets of £31.1m, then NTAV is only £13.1m.
Speaking as a shareholder, I’d like to see the company build up its balance sheet, and not pay dividends. Other opinions are available.
Cashflow statement - I’m not entirely sure what the “right of return asset” and “right of return provision” lines are for, so there’s a query on that.
Cash generated by operations of £28.4m is a nonsense number, thanks to IFRS 16 which has wreaked havoc on financial statements since its introduction, it really needs to be abolished asap.
Near the bottom of the cashflow statement, there’s a £11.3m outflow relating to rents! So real world cashflow from operations is £17.1m, not £28.4m.
What a state of affairs, where IFRS 16 means we have to manually re-work the accounts, in order for them to make sense.
Broker forecasts & valuation - many thanks to analyst Wayne Brown at Liberum, who crunches the numbers for us, and has the balls to put out quite punchy forecasts, raised a lot earlier this year, instead of the extreme timidity that we see from many brokers at the moment.
Actual fully diluted, adjusted EPS is 4.6p for FY 05/2021, a PER of 56 times! That’s not a reliable base year for valuation, as the shops were shut for half the year.
Forecast EPS for FY 05/2022 is a big rise to 12.5p, then up again to 18.1p the following year, which would (if achieved) drop the PER to 20.7, and 14.3 - which looks a lot more reasonable.
Therefore, we’re paying up-front for a big rise in profitability. Is that likely to happen? I’d say there’s a good chance, due to the resumption of trading from stores, wholesale recovering, and a full year of Garden Trading should be material.
My opinion - I’m comfortable with the current valuation, and don’t see any particular reason why it should rise in the short term, but these things are impossible to predict, so I don’t try (usually). It would only take one fund manager to decide JOUL is the best thing since sliced onions, to start buying heavily in the market, and push up the price a lot (because it’s quite tightly held). Therefore price volatility is just something we have to live with. I ignore it for my long-term, coffee can holdings like this one.
Why do I like this share so much then (as a long-term, multi-year investment)? Key points for me are -
Bull points
- Distinctive brand/lifestyle, with differentiated products and a growing loyal customer base
- Most retail sales are now online, hence can be scaled up easily, and making the business very resilient in any future lockdowns
- Marketplace - Friends of Joules - could turbocharge growth, as it’s allowing JOUL to greatly expand product ranges, all funded & operated by the suppliers, and having all the data, JOUL can acquire the best suppliers (as it did with Garden Trading)
- Upside from shops re-opening
Downside risks?
- I suppose the main one would be if the company falls a long way short of the Liberum forecasts, then it would look too expensive in the short-term.
- Fashion risk - if the target demographic go off the products/brand
- There were logistics problems in the past, but I think it’s now outsourced that to Clipper Logistics (LON:CLG) .
- Tom Joule (the founder) taking a back seat to 1-day per week as a NED is maybe introducing some risk, but I don’t know as I’ve never met him. He’s still the largest shareholder with almost 22%, so the owner’s eye will still be on the business.
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Restore (LON:RST)
500p (up 2%, at 12:58) - mkt cap £683m
Significant Support Against Marlowe’s Proposal
This is a really interesting situation, where similar-sized Marlowe (LON:MRL) made private approaches to RST about a takeover funded mainly with new MRL shares (plus a small cash element). RST management rejected it because they said it;
- Undervalued RST
- Poorly structured, being mainly in shares, not cash, and
- Had little strategic rationale
Marlowe then went public with the proposal (not an actual offer), so I suppose we might call this a hostile approach, not a hostile takeover bid - something that sounds like it’s from the era of JR Ewing, in Dallas!
Personally I don’t see a problem with potential bidders going direct to shareholders & the market, actually I quite like it - why should takeover approaches all be cloak & dagger? Much better out in the open. May the best team win - i.e. whoever offers shareholders the best option.
Today’s update from Restore is headlined -
Restore plc goes from strength to strength and Significant shareholder support against Marlowe's proposal
This update seems to be mainly repeating previously published facts & figures.
This is new though -
The Board of Restore can confirm that it has received written confirmation from seven shareholders representing approximately 33.27 per cent. of Restore's issued share capital, stating that they do not intend to accept an offer on the terms set out in Marlowe's possible offer announcement dated 22 July 2021.
The following Restore shareholders have confirmed in writing that they do not intend to accept an offer on the terms set out in Marlowe's possible offer announcement dated 22 July 2021:
Name | Number of shares | Percentage of issued share capital |
Octopus Investments | 14,592,278 | 10.68% |
Polar Capital | 6,876,968 | 5.03% |
Slater Investments | 6,581,976 | 4.82% |
Franklin Templeton Investments | 6,325,355 | 4.63% |
Royce & Associates | 5,055,611 | 3.70% |
Charles Stanley | 4,027,342 | 2.95% |
Stadium Capital Management LLC | 2,014,285 | 1.47% |
My opinion - private shareholders can be much more flexible, and take some money off the table in the open market, if they wish. That strikes me as a good idea, to top slice a few, given that the current price of RST looks about right, and is up a lot recently.
Restore's share price has been rising, and Marlowe's has been falling, so on balance I'm guessing that the bid approach may fail, unless it's sweetened, and with a higher cash element. Who knows though?
Blackrock (3.5%) and Invesco (10.2%) are missing from the above list, so presumably have not decided.
Jack’s section
Belvoir (LON:BLV)
Share price: 307p (+3.72%)
Shares in issue: 36,351,774
Market cap: £111.6m
We covered Property Franchise (LON:TPFG) recently and here we have another of the property franchise groups. Belvoir has been a strong performer recently, with a one-year relative strength measure of +75.7%. The initial Covid drop already looks like a distant blip on the share price chart.
I won’t reiterate the merits of this business model too much, having gone into it last week. Suffice to say that these groups have strong cash generation and profit margin characteristics, along with relatively sticky revenues, operating in markets that offer the potential for steady growth over time.
The property market is important to the UK economy, hence it is being helped by government initiatives. If these get withdrawn, that does represent a risk to the investment case - but the business model here is sufficiently robust that headwinds can be navigated in my opinion.
The Board is pleased to report that trading has continued to be exceptionally strong with Group revenue during the six months to 30 June 2021 up 41% on 2020, which had been impacted by the Covid-19 pandemic, and up 53% on 2019 (42% on a like-for-like basis), with substantial revenue growth across both divisions on the back of a very buoyant housing market.
The property division grew revenue by 45% on the same period in 2019. Of this, 25% was organic and 20% came from the investment in two additional franchise networks (Lovelle in January 2020 and Nicholas Humphreys in March 2021).
The financial services division reported revenue up 62% on H1 2019 through organic growth.
There is a demand for mortgages to fund house purchases, but Belvoir’s adviser network is also expanding, up by 21% to 221 (H1 2020: 176) advisers at the end of June 2021. The subsequent acquisition of Nottingham Mortgage Services Limited takes it up to 242.
Management Service Fees (MSF) from residential sales was up 100% on H1 2020 as the market swung from lockdown-related disruption in Q2 2020 to a ‘race for space’ in H1 2021. This has also been flattered by the stamp duty holiday. The figure was up 68% on the same period in 2019.
MSF from lettings - more resilient - was on par with H1 2019 and up 13% on H1 2020. The group says that ‘there are signs of more substantial rental increases on the horizon with the rental growth from new tenancies reportedly running at 5.9% UK-wide, and 8.0%, excluding London’.
Re. stamp duty:
Current pipelines and the ongoing demand for property suggests that the transitional approach to ending the stamp duty holiday, which finally ends on 30 September this year, has succeeded in avoiding the cliff edge feared at the start of 2021 with instead a gradual return to a more normal transaction level anticipated in Q4.
The balance sheet is strong - net debt of £4.0m (H1 2020: £5.7m) after having acquired Nicholas Humphreys for £4.0m, but supported by high levels of cash generation.
More detailed half year results will be provided on Monday, 6 September 2021 and retail investors will be able to listen to management on https://www.investormeetcompan...
Conclusion
Belvoir is cash generative, profitable, and is investing in growth opportunities. Beyond government support initiatives and possible changes in macro conditions at some point, there’s not much I can see that might interrupt the group’s steady expansion.
You might think valuation is a concern given the share price performance but that doesn’t seem to be the case. In fact, I'd argue the business model here warrants a higher multiple relative to other valuations you see around.
It’s fair to say that trading is far better than some had feared at the start of lockdowns. Pipelines remain strong, while the group anticipates upward pressure on rents. The financial services division is also expanding well.
So pending the more detailed results in September, I’d be a happy holder here.
Nwf (LON:NWF)
Share price: 217p (+0.46%)
Shares in issue: 49,003,965
Market cap: £106.3m
This is a specialist distributor of fuel, food and feed across the UK. Each of its trading divisions has scale and good market position and is profitable and cash generative.
NWF has got an extremely solid track record and was established in 1871 - so you’d back it to at least remain a going concern for the foreseeable future. Such longevity, sadly, is rare. For investors looking for genuine buy and hold stocks, identifying those that have already been in business for a long time is a good start.
This is not a high multiple business though. With operating margins of just 2.02%, you can see why the market prices the shares at 12.3x forecast earnings. But returns on capital are a solid 10%+ and earnings tend to be healthily covered by cash, so it looks like a robust business - but a steady dividend-payer rather than something promising significant capital gains in a hurry.
The five-year chart is unsurprising: a consistently high StockRank but with limited share price progression. You can add to this chart a healthy 3.4% forecast yield that grows steadily over time, but still, is there an opportunity cost to holding this type of share? Perhaps that depends on your timeframe.
Another strong set of results, ahead of expectations set before the pandemic, demonstrating continued performance delivery and resilience.
Highlights:
- Revenue -1.7% to £675.6m,
- Headline operating profit and profit before tax -9.8% to £12.9m and £11.9m respectively,
- Fully diluted earnings per share -4.2% to 20.4p,
- Total dividend per share +4.3% to 7.2p
- Net debt -53.7% to £5.7m
The headline figures exclude £0.5m of net exceptional costs including a ‘cyber incident’:
Headline PBT also takes away net finance cost for the defined benefit scheme. I’d probably add that £0.3m cost back in.
Highlights:
Performance is ahead of pre-pandemic market expectations. It’s the second highest profit performance on record for the group, with the prior year benefitting from a significant fall in the oil price.
Fuels outperformed with strong heating oil demand supported by a cold winter and an increase in home working during the pandemic. Headline operating profit here was £9.3m (2020: £11.0m).
Strong second half recovery in Food delivering on the anticipated benefits of the new Crewe warehouse, which has been fully utilised. Headline operating profit of £1.9m (2020: £1.4m). The new Crewe warehouse has been fully utilised and has delivered business benefits in line with expectations.
Feeds performance impacted by the significant increase in feed commodity prices and reduced management information as a result of the cyber incident. Headline operating profit of £1.7m (2020: £1.9m). Performance was impacted by unprecedented commodity price increases during key winter months, ‘exacerbated by a lack of visibility as a result of the cyber incident’.
All divisions remained open and operational through Covid, providing essential services and meaning to government support or furloughing of staff has been required.
Performance to date in the current financial year has been in line with the board's expectations.
Conclusion
Cost increases/volatility could be a concern, but NWF has navigated its way through various market conditions and is emerging from Covid in decent shape so it can likely handle most scenarios. It is investing for growth, searching for acquisition opportunities, and is increasing its total dividend for the tenth successive year.
Revenue trends are as you might expect: choppy, but with an underlying longer term growth trend.
So on the whole, solid results and scope for steady underlying growth from what seems to be a sensible, long-term company. It’s not perfect - low margin, with some level of volatility to be expected as par for the course - but a reliable dividend payer trading on an undemanding earnings multiple, so it might appeal to some.
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Joules (LON:JOUL) (no position)
I'm always torn on this one.
Some aspects of the business look fantastic, such as the £5.1m "Other" revenue, for example, which is the commission received from their Friends of Joules platform.
This is 100% gross profit, something that they should really emphasise, as I had to work it out/confirm it from the other gross profit %'s provided (see yellow highlighted sections below.)
Of course there's also the less good:
Note that gross margin was 47.9% in the period just finished, down from 55.5% 3 years ago (see table above.)
In fairness to the company they have tried to explain this steep decline (large discounting, high shipping costs, etc..), though I don't recall seeing similar drops in other retailers so it does ring tiny alarm bells.
I can't tell if this is a good or bad thing, but I guess given the lower international sales it's not too much of a worry if things back home are still going well.
Also, why are Store Costs in H1 FY21 (£9.4m) and H2 FY20 (£11.9m) so much higher?
Furlough and Rates Relief were in place during these periods too, weren't they?
Looking at Note 5 of the accounts I also can't quite understand where all the benefit has come from.
I'm not really sure what to forecast on how profitability will be affected in future periods.
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I feel that there might be something here, especially the Friends of Joules platform, but I'll remain on the side until the dust settles and the future looks clearer.
Good luck all holders.
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Immotion (LON:IMMO) somewhat surprised there is no mention of this given it has taken up a fair bit of discussion previously on here. Pleased to see a new 16 seat theatre at Sealife Orlando for 3 years minimum plus 2 smaller installs for a total of 10 seats as well as an extension to the 22 seater at Clearwater.
Given the recent trading update it looks like there is plenty more to come here in terms of growth, targeting the zoo market next from Q1. At 6p is now a £25m market cap, but assuming no further lock downs looking increasingly interesting again to me.
"targeting the zoo market next from Q1"
In that case I'm pencilling in a fundraising soon to "capitalise on this amazing opportunity" and for breakeven to be pushed out even further.
Why buy Immotion (LON:IMMO) now when you could probably buy cheaper at a discounted fundraising soon?
I wondered if the SCVR community can shed some light on a query I have in regards to the connection between Broker Research Notes and Stocko’s data sets.
I have just read a very comprehensive Research Note from TPI on Deepverge (LON:DVRG) (I hold) which, if the business plan is executed, could elevate DeepVerge to commercial greatness!
I then returned to Stockopedia and, knowing it ranks Deepverge (LON:DVRG) as ‘sucker stock’, wanted to understand the ranking gap in analysis between it and the Research Note. I now see that Stockopedia doesn’t contain any of the Broker estimated financial numbers at all, (in fact, it even suggests Deepverge (LON:DVRG) doesn’t have a Broker!) hence I guess it can only rank it as it does.
So here’s the question. Why is there this gap? Is it the Broker not ‘pushing’ the Research Note or, Stockopedia not ‘pulling’ the info from TPI?
I would imagine if Stockopedia updated these recent numbers, Deepverge (LON:DVRG) would be ranked very differently and may appear on more screenings for a ‘buy’ consideration?
I would be interested in people’s views.
Thanks
Hi Chris1011,
Deepverge (LON:DVRG) It might be good to ask this question too via the round green button at the bottom of the Stocko screen. I suspect that that broker is not covered by their data supplier.
It would be very useful for the rest of us if you could start a thread under the Deepverge Deepverge (LON:DVRG) page and outline the key points of the broker note and the forecast revs etc. I don't hold.
All the best
Thank you timarr & david jhill for your comments.
I had completely missed yesterdays posts on Thinksmart (LON:TSL) because I used the Stockopedia Discussion bar and no discussions were listed since last year!
I had read Simon Thompson in the IC and he was the person who wrote about Thinksmart last year which prompted me to invest.
As you say it will be all about the negotiation as to value.
I hope the huge growth story will reveal that the December 2020 valuation is well out of date.
£TSL. As a long term subscriber I am surprised there is so little comment on Thinksmart a £100m Cap.
I would describe it as a Special Situation. I first bought at 20p in June 2020 and the announcement overnight on Monday by Square that it intends to acquire Afterpay for AU$39 billion has seen Thinksmart (LON:TSL) rocket from around 60p to 100p in 2 days.
The key to this share is that Thinksmart has an agreement with Afterpay relating to the sale of the Group's remaining holding in Clearpay UK which gives Afterpay the right to exercise its call option to purchase the remaining shares in Clearpay from Thinksmart.
At 31Dec 2020 Thinksmart's 10% holding in Clearpay was valued at £106.6 m but must now be worth considerably more. It is complicated but also fascinating.
What has changed arising from the proposed acquisition by Square is that the Call Option will be brought forward if the deal goes through resulting in a change of control.
I would love to know what other subscribers think of this unusual situation.
Thinksmart (LON:TSL) As a long term subscriber I am surprised there is so little comment on Thinksmart a £100m Cap
Well, it was discussed yesterday. There is a massive valuation gap between the two sides.
Thinksmart claim (as of last December) that Afterpay's stake in Clearpay is worth £106.6 million. Simon Thompson of the IC estimates the Clearpay stake is worth £130 million.
The current market cap is £103 million so this is an absolute bargain obviously?
Only ... Afterpay don't value the Clearpay stake at anywhere near the same level. In the last interim report the Clearpay put option was valued at AUS$67,840 or £36 million which they state is recorded at fair value based on future cash flow projections (or, as we commonly know them, chicken entrails).
So on one end Simon Thompson (and presumably Thinksmart) value the Clearpay stake at between £106 million and £130 million. Meanwhile Afterpay value it at £36 million. That's quite a gap.
I think you'd expect Thinksmart to start high and Afterpay to start low and to end up in the middle. The very considerable fly in the ointment is Square whose view on this is unknown. They might want the ownership of Clearpay sorted out before the takeover - which would benefit Thinksmart - or they might leave it to after and negotiate hard. Or would they?
It's all very interesting and I continue to hold, but I feel that the higher valuations are rather optimistic and rely on Square not wanting to be bothered with this kind of piffling detail. We shall see.
timarr
Thinksmart (LON:TSL) Simon Thomson in the IC also likes these. Brought to my attention quite late but picked some up around 80p. ST thinks they have a sum of parts valuation of 140p+ at the price bid for Afterpay, but at current levels probably closer to 150p. Deal close in Q1 of 2022 targeted so looks like decent upside and low downside from here. I estimate for my own purposes a 1 to 5 risk/reward at the 80p I paid.
Thinksmart (LON:TSL) Simon Thomson in the IC also likes these
Remember that Simon Thompson's response after the Globo fiasco, which he tipped right up until the scam was confessed to, was that he had the right to rely on the information the company published. Given that Paul Scott had been calling this as a scam for months based on the accounts I thought that was pretty poor.
There's no indication in the ST commentary that he's taken into account the low valuation placed on Clearpay by Afterpay or sought to explain it. I'd be extremely wary of taking that as gospel.
timarr
Simon Thompson is very basis, I remember some of his postings on Globo, he was only reporting the positives. That's the difference between IC tipsters and Stockopedia, you get a much more balanced review of stocks on here.
I actually rate Simon Thompson as a tipster, but he does seem to have something of a blind spot in relation to frauds (he was caught out by Camkids as well as Globo) due to an over-reliance on accounting numbers, without applying any qualitative filter.
He was actually very late to tipping Globo, that being in February 2015, a couple of years after Paul Scott had called it as a fraud and almost a year after the the firm changed its auditor during the year-end process, which is when I finally saw the light. Globo were suspended on 23 October 2015 and never resumed trading. Here's what he said at the time:
However, the fact that City firms, financial institutions and myself included, have been duped is scant consolation for those readers facing losses on their holdings. It's time for the regulators and authorities to act, and I am determined that they will.
How's that going? Well Costis Papadimitrakopoulos seems to have been spending the last six years windsurfing in various exotic locations.
https://www.facebook.com/costi...
It seems that white-collar crime pays very well. Regulation is effectively non-existent, and Simon Thompson has not returned to the subject of Globo once since he vowed retribution.
Totally agree regarding Simon Thompson. I find he’s excellent at analysing numbers, but a tad naive when analysing people. Without trying to blow smoke... this is where I find these SCVRs excel. They’re a great judge of both the numbers and of the people presenting the numbers.
I don't take anything as gospel but generally I find ST pretty reliable. I don't know any commentator that has a 100% record btw so everyone can make a mistake. How many of you were buying Patisserie Valerie right up until it was a fraud?
What I would say is that Afterpay put out a public statement saying that the UK (or Clearpay) made up 10% of its monthly customer revenue and 5% of total customers (ie Clearpay customers are more valuable than customers in the core business). Price will be determined under pre agreed valuation metrics including sell side analyst values, so it seems it will be somewhat tricky for Afterpay to argue Clearpay should be worth much less than 10% of the deal price, or £2.1bn, which would in turn put Thinksmart (LON:TSL) share at £210m. That ties into the Thinksmart (LON:TSL) accounting valuations as remember they further discount the implied valuation by around half to come up with the numbers for accounts. That discount should in theory disappear since there is now a crystallisation event. These valuations were done by an independent 3rd party valuer.
I also note that Afterpay went from valuing Clearpay liabilities at $3m to $67m in their accounts pretty quickly (less than 1 year) and revenue has grown significantly since that accounting date too.
The key risk for me is that whilst I presume management are competent and have a strong wording around the valuation principles and have included clauses for independent arbitration if necessary I obviously haven't seen the contracts, so I can't be certain. Thus my assumed risk from the 80p mark is 15p or a value of around £50m for the Clearpay stake, but assuming it is valued as expected the upside is between 60-75p. Hence my inferred risk/reward profile.
In the grand scheme of this deal £200m isn't very much at all. They won't want a minority holder hanging on, particularly given the growth profile of Clearpay, so I suspect they will want to exercise the option at the earliest opportunity as this will be the cleanest way of completing the sale.
Nothing is risk free but that's my take on it.
RE: Thinksmart (LON:TSL)
I don't take anything as gospel but generally I find ST pretty reliable.
Globo wasn't a mistake on ST's part, it was a failure to even look at the numbers. Paul's analysis was spot on but it wasn't hard to pick it up once he'd pointed it out. Patisserie Holdings (LON:CAKE) is a completely different issue, virtually no one picked up anything uptoward - even in the aftermath it's been quite hard to detect the signs.
Paul's prescient analysis is here, even while ST maintained his buy tip:
https://www.stockopedia.com/co...
The Afterpay put option valuation is described by them thus:
The Clearpay Put Option is recorded at fair value and the valuation is re-assessed at each reporting period. The valuation is determined using the valuation principles outlined in the Clearpay Share Purchase Agreement which requires the valuation of Clearpay as a stand-alone entity. This calculation uses cash flow projections based on operating budgets and strategic business plans, after which a terminal value is applied, based on management’s view of the expected long-term growth profile of the business.
The determination of cash flows over the life of a business requires management judgement in assessing the future number of merchant acquisitions, customer usage, potential price changes as well as any changes to the costs of the product and of other operating costs incurred by the business.
The valuation is then derived by discounting the cashflow projections to present value using a discount rate that reflects current market conditions, external analyst views, industry benchmarks, and, where available, the underlying businesses cost of debt and/or equity.
Because the valuation is determined using cash flow inputs that are not based on observable market data, it is considered to be level 3 within the fair value hierarchy as per AASB 13 Fair Value Measurement.
https://afterpay-corporate.you... (page 45)
It's entirely possible that independent arbitration (yes, it's included, that information is in the public domain) may come up with a higher valuation but it sounds like they'll start with an argument about how to value Clearpay: DCF versus current value as a percentage of Afterpay's valuation. Whether Square can be bothered with that debate may be the opportunity here.
When I bought Thinksmart (LON:TSL) at under 40p the upside was compelling and the downside limited. At 90p+ it's far less so as it's impossible to know exactly how this will play out. On balance I still think it's worth hanging on, but it's a much more nuanced decision now than it was then.
timarr
Hi Paul
FYI, wrt Joules (LON:JOUL) , other revenue was £5.1m not £51m.
Cheers, Martin
Thanks Martin,
Typo now corrected. My apologies & thanks for flagging.
Regards, Paul.
Hi Paul
Thank you, Its quite amazing how few typos etc there are in the SVCRs given the high volume of quality output.
Kind Regards, Martin
Does anyone have a good news article / source that illustrates how much ETFs (passive investors) are influencing share prices?
I noted today that Centamin (LON:CEY) there is a notification that the Van Eck portfolio of commodity ETFs now own 10% of shares. Which is incredible, as they can't be the only commodity ETF player in the world.
Would it be outlandish to say potentially ETFs might be owning 20%-30% collectively, in some companies? And therefore if hot money goes into commodities ETF for example, even if that money is chasing iron ore and copper and other commodities, that we see shares like gold miner Centamin rise in tandem just because they're part of broad commodity ETFs?
Interested in views on ETFs influence on share prices!
Hi,
Try https://www.zer0es.tv/ which is the interviews website for short trader Carson Block of Muddy Waters Research. Look for an interview with Mike Green called "The Perversion of Passive Investment". (highly recommended by me). Carson did a piece in the FT about the same subject.
Thanks! Found the FT article, in case anyone else is interested: https://www.ft.com/content/dbf...
Hmm I think it's time I stop reading too much SCVR! My investments are having too much overlap now to Paul's. I own all three of the new threads he is creating: Saga (LON:SAGA) Sosandar (LON:SOS) Revolution Bars (LON:RBG)
On a more serious note, thank you Paul, Jack, and also everyone else on Stocko for your contributions. I have really learnt so much and it has helped me immensely to improve the way I analyse shares and my own portfolio.
Anyone know anything about Kistos (I hold)? I see that Spreadex will hot take future bets as they have already a large number of bets but there is no discussion about it.
Hi Snig,I hold (KIST) - led by Andrew Austin of Rockrose fame -which got taken out last year for a whacking premium (this is a fella to keep your eye on).Have u looked at the usual chat sites -LSE and ADVFN ? If you wade thru the loonies you can sometimes pick up real facts ! LOL
What I've seen work well in other online communities is an active moderator / librarian role - merging similar threads, renaming titles, closing redundant / ramping / nonsense conversations. Would bring a bit more order and coalesce some of the conversation
I like the idea of the individual company discussion as the content should be heavily concentrated on that particular stock.
One particular feature I like about stocko is the discussion tab when evaluating new companies, and this could only l enhance it further.
Good solid figures from Nwf (LON:NWF) I thought. EPS of 20p odd increased dividend to 7.2p. Will be a beneficiary of rising commodity ,food and fuel prices. The milk price is firm apparently. Debt down to £5m odd and pension deficit down too to.
Possible Stocko could create the search facility which pulls out all content from each tread on a given share without going into each thread. Boohoo (LON:BOO) already has 150 + threads, (guess) consolidating all that information could prove difficult, or control who posts what, where, and when might prove to be like herding cats.
BSV
I really like your idea of having a separate thread for each company. Count me in.
A separate thread for each company? There will be 1,000s, I don't see the point. Subscribers won't know where to post, already seen it with Boohoo (LON:BOO), most are still posting on here even though there are several other threads set up for Boohoo (LON:BOO). I can understand for stocks that are outside SCVR coverage and a few that generate lots of discussion.
Threads away from SCVR tend to attract little traffic.
The search function on Stockopedia is poor and does not even work now on the old site.
A separate thread for each company? There will be 1,000s, I don't see the point.
I don't see the problem. The SCVR thread could continue, relevant news related small cap reports could still take place there, but more general company related discussions would cease to fill it it.
That's already started, and it's working well
Paul was proposing 1 thread for each stock, just like ADFVN, that could work but I can't see Stockopedia doing that for a while as it is a fundamental change.
Having numerous threads for many stocks with the search function being so poor I don't think will work.
There needs to be more control which would involve more work for Stockopedia. At the moment there are no guidelines about posting.
I was thinking along the lines of threads for stocks of particular interest, not for every single stock. There seem to be some firm favourites that get regularly discussed here, perhaps 20-30 stocks for starters?
"Paul was proposing 1 thread for each stock, just like ADFVN".
Well the other place does not have 1 each - it is as many as people want to create. There are dozens for Boohoo (LON:BOO) but they are listed with the date of last comment and number of replies so you will see which is the most popular and who created it:
..and rather than mess around with threads I would rather the limited resources at Stocko could come up with a way of putting a whole picture in a post. Here is the right hand side cut off from the above:
Paul interested that you are in COG in size. I bought in at 70p and got out around 128p when price was nearer 140p. Found it an incredibly tight market. In many ways sorry to be out as I like you like it a lot, but just felt it was too illiquid.
Respectfully Terry, we already have hundreds of threads, often multiple for each company (eg. Boohoo (LON:BOO) ). In my opinion this would at least largely consolidate conversation to a single thread for each company.
NEW THREADS
Paul, with greats respect, I think if we go with your idea, we will end up with hundreds of threads, one for each company.
May I suggest we have one discussion thread per day, we could call it Paul's Daily All Share Discussion Thread or PDASDT or something like that. So it will be the same as SCVR but with all types of shares on a daily basis.
Just an idea.
This issue i think could be sorted with the option to allow a user to subscribe to a thread. This way only those discussions a user is interested in could be tracked by way of say a table in the home page or discuss page.
Hi Terry,
Paul, with greats respect, I think if we go with your idea, we will end up with hundreds of threads, one for each company.
Err, yes, that's the idea! So if you like a company, you can go to that board to discuss it at any time with other subscribers who find the company interesting. A bit like advfn, but without the abusive/nutters (well, most of them anyway LOL!)
The SCVR would be unchanged, and cover all the same daily announcements as we do now.
Hope that clarifies.
Regards, Paul.
Hello Paul, That makes sense but in that case, Stockopedia need to condense the treads into one, as with some stocks such as Boohoo (LON:BOO) there are numerous threads already on the go.
That makes sense but in that case, Stockopedia need to condense the treads into one, as with some stocks such as Boohoo (LON:BOO) there are numerous threads already on the go.
Most of the suggestions today are reasonable but are too complicated to implement quickly - I've no idea how long the existing backlog is, but it doesn't seem very likely that anything requiring development will happen very quickly. So what is needed is a workaround.
It would be simple enough for Stockpodia to create a "directory" post that contained an alphabetical list of company threads. That could be pinned to the top of the thread list so it doesn't disappear.
People could then create a company thread and request Stockopedia to add it to the pinned directory thread. To be sensible it would be one thread per company, and first come first served.
That would take no development and would be relatively simple to administer - although one of the Stockopedia elves would need to add or achive (e.g. when a company is taken over) threads.
timarr
Often "newbies" provide fresh perspectives and insights that can be missed by the old hands. Fire away!
It would be great if Stockopedia had expansions plans for SCVR covering US and European markets as well. I for one joined Stockopedia for its data and stock reports - the SCVR was kind of a happy discovery - now a daily must read for me. Im sure this is the case for many international subscribers as well. Just putting it out there since we are talking about expanding discussion (all of which are great ideas).
Could not agree more on the threads.
I think a search function on the discussion/ forum section would be really handy too, I spent an hour or so last night trying (to no avail) to find a comment where a investing book was described by one of the community as "life changing" I thought I had added to my wish list on audible but obviously not.
A thread/ section on books and other topics would make retrospective searching much easier.
For me the issue is that you can only filter/search the discussion by shares. Therefore I dont know how I would find the discussion on a book from a month or two ago without scrolling through all the newer articles until I find it.
So I agree a better search function would be great
Paul, I think the idea of posting Threads for individual companies is great!
I would only hope that it doesn’t give people an idea that they can ramp absolute rubbish.
I would only hope that it doesn’t give the people an idea that they can just ramp rubbish.
Regards, Andrea
Great idea Paul, I have sometimes looked for such a Thread on this site, clicked on 'Discussions' and then found myself in 'No Man's Land'. hopefully there won't be any ramping, but if anybody does want to ramp please contact me for a list of shares I need ramping!
Morning andrea34!
I would only hope that it doesn’t give people an idea that they can ramp absolute rubbish.
I'm sure the community will take justifiable delight in shooting down rampers, with cold logic and facts! Hopefully we'll get some constructive bull-bear discussions going, and not too many blazing rows!
Best wishes, Paul.
Great idea. Some BB's are a howling asylum whereas a few have excellent contributors and provide genuine insights. These unfortunately, are in a very small minority. Hopefully Stocko will join the latter group without the need for policing measures.
It's hardly a new idea. I've been maintaining company-specific threads on here for over four years now, albeit, understandably, with substantially less interest from the rest of the Stockopedia community than the ones that Paul has just set up. Others have been doing similar.
Such threads to tend to drift well down the list when there is a substantial period between announcements and can be hard to find. The poor search functionality does not help. Having some kind of "favoriting" selection would help filter the thread list down to cover just those companies that you are specifically interested.
Hi Effortless Cool,
Agreed, it's not a new idea at all to have company-specific discussion threads. I just thought that if I do a fanfare & some jazz hands, and shout hey everyone let's try this! that it might have some impact & steer everyone towards company-specific threads ;-)
By all means flag up your company-specific threads here on trading update/results days, to help draw attention to them, and please set up more! Same message to everyone. Especially if people add value by putting some useful links & pictures in the header.
This all strikes me as a good way of making better use of the facilities we've already got here, rather than asking the developers to change things, which means going into a queue.
Regards, Paul.
Understood, Paul, and you do jazz hands much better than me!
Property Franchise (LON:TPFG) have dumped Cenkos and appointed Cannacord Genuity as their NOMAD and Broker forthwith. On a relatively quiet day like today, I thought it worth a mention. Are these changes seen as a major falling-out and significant failing by Cenkos by investors, or is it a question of musical chairs which is a pretty common occurrence to get some new blood and ideas into the advisor partnership? No big deal, I guess.
Property Franchise (LON:TPFG) changed financial PR last year too (to Alma). The change of NOMAD now may be the preference of the CEO, who is quite a strong character and has only been in charge for 18 months or so.
Numbers all seemed good in the recent update and Cenkos were in the chair for the financing of the Hunters acquisition so not sure there was any reason for a falling out.
Might be about getting access to some new IIs?
All sensible ideas Michael. Although to be fair I don't know why Stocko wrote their own forum software (probably just to render the tickers nicely) when there are plenty of decent alternatives out there like Discourse... Re-inventing the wheel springs to mind
Joules (LON:JOUL) reports full year today. It is precisely what the pre-close trading statement said in June - revenue, profit before tax and exceptionals. Yet the SP has been hit today, even after a fall from the high in May of over 300p. Maybe I am missing something, even after reading the admittedly rather long and complex statement about strategy etc. Perhaps something to do with Tom Joules stepping further back from the executive side of the business?
Certainly looking at the 2021E figures on the Stocko page, the figures are a miss, but I am surprised that the Stocko E figures were not updated after the specific June statement.
Thoughts anyone?
An index of threads and a search facility please.
another up vote for the company specific threads as long as it isn't to the detriment of the daily SCVR. I read this regularly but navigating through old SVCRs to pick out comments on a particular company I am researching can be tedious
I would be interested in your views on £Aferian (I hold) formerly known as Amino Technology - for years now it has been in your "much too difficult" box because you were not clear exactly what they did . The company have quietly got on with changing from a non recurring revenue business based on devices to a recurring SSAS business ( 37% of revenue is now recurring ) .They operate in the changing world of streaming and pay TV which is growing rapidly . Would appreciate you casting your eye over the interim results.
fred,
Re Aferian (LON:AFRN) - you're putting (not terribly accurate!) words into my mouth here, when you said -
for years now it has been in your "much too difficult" box because you were not clear exactly what they did
The issue with this company for me, was that I didn't know how to assess its future prospects, so found it difficult to form a view on it. The figures today look quite good, I had a quick skim earlier.
Paul.
any chance of analysis -particularly the balance sheet in view of their acquisition ambitions which so far look sound -wouldn't dream of putting words in your mouth so please forgive me !!!
Good morning all!
An interesting RNS this morning from a previously uncovered small cap called Vpc Specialty Lending Investments (LON:VSL) . They have an interest in a new SPAC / cash shell combination that was announced today.
https://www.investegate.co.uk/...
Yes, Vpc Specialty Lending Investments (LON:VSL) have been performing remarkably steadily through the pandemic. I picked up some when they were down last year, and recently, after talking to the relevant Partner there, some more. Position sizing is so hard to manage, though, because the dividend is so high. I didn't dare buy more, when it was at 9.5%, as it was beginning to form too significant a % of my overall income. But, the NAV continues to climb, and the main reason the discount was so steep was because of Neil xxxx Woodford and his fund holding quite a lot, which was subject to a firesale. This was picked up by hedge funds trying to arbitrage a possible winding-up of VSL at the forthcoming continuation vote. This didn't happen, so THEY were then sellers. This is only now unwinding, so in theory, given its steady track record, this should now approach its NAV, which will be some 107p this week.
VSL forms only a small part of Victory Park Capital, which is a serious player in the debt-funding market. VSL never expanded because of the story above, making it not very interesting to the main business, I suspect, but it could be revived. But be sure, this is an income vehicle for investors, not a multi-bagging growth vehicle, in spite of the bit of SPAC spice. However at still nearly 9% yield today, I'm not selling at under £1. So that would make about 18% to hope for over the next year. Pretty happy with that...
Hi Paul
I think that the general discussions thread is an excellent idea and has the potential to work well.
I would suggest (and will drop Stocko a line to this effect) that:
I don’t know what others think but interaction between subscribers would lead to more engagement with the site which can only be good for Stockopedia and it might suck in comments from more people. I am always intrigued that there thousands of views of the SCVR (I am assuming unique page views) and yet only hundreds of thumbs up and tens of comments from the usual suspects. Personally I think investing can be/is quite a lonely activity and interaction on places like this and Twitter can make it less so as well as improving ones investing skills and knowledge of companies
Regards
Michael
Hi, first time poster here. I'm new to investing and have been a subscriber for about 18 months. I knew I would need a resource to learn from and chose to pay for stocko after reading some books and the free trial. Its fair to say that the SCVR has paid for that subscription alone.
One thing I couldn't get my head around is being able to find discussion by members grouped by company easily. Its great that it's being discussed now. All of the ideas in Michaels post make great sense to me. I'd certainly try and contribute more, even as a newbie
Hi Bloxs,
Good to read your first post here, especially this bit -
Its fair to say that the SCVR has paid for that subscription alone.
(my cheque is in the post!)
Best wishes, Paul.
Go to the stock report page then the discussion tab/drop down for all comments mentioning the co :)
Hi Richard
Yes one can do that but having posts curated automatically by the “database” and placed on the home page next the folio news feed would make it easier to see new posts as they appear through the day.
Michael
I like this idea. Despite all the warnings not to I do look at LSE and ADVFN bulletin boards because, like you say, investing is lonely; and when you are new to it with no useful/relevant work life experience either, you want to hear people's opinions.
Trouble is, those bulletin boards can be pretty toxic and there are plenty of bogus accounts writing nonsense. Stocko isn't like that.
Really great idea Paul, as a new investor (8 months) its been too easy to get poor comments from the other feeds from other sites that you have mentioned, and based on the sentiment read there made some investments, good and bad.
I have learned a lot, but with still an awful lot to learn and hopefully your new threads will aid that learning process by having better comments from fellow members.
One company I would like to understand better, especially recent trends is that of BooHoo. It has declined steadily for a month and understanding why from comments would be very useful to me going forward.
Boohoo (LON:BOO)
One company I would like to understand better, especially recent trends is that of BooHoo. It has declined steadily for a month and understanding why from comments would be very useful to me going forward.
Normally its as simple as supply and demand - it dosn't take alot for any share to drift and particualrly if the chart gets ugly and the momentum investors jump ship.
There are a few specific items.
Their nearest lfl like competitor ASOS recently posted quite a poor update - asos shareprice down 15% since that update. The marrket presumes unless specific reasons similar companies are likely to similarly struggle. So check out the ASOS update 15/7/2021.
They are having ongoing serious labour lack of minimum wage / (potential slavery some would say) issues in suppliers - these allegations seem to refuse to go away.
They are being sued in the us for false advertising - fake sale type stuff that is fairly common in retailing as we all know but don't mess with the yanks legal system ! and it looks like Komani the chief bod may have to testify when there have been allegations (hoepfully unfounded) that this slipup has come directly from him. I hold boohoo and feel nervous at the thought of him saying anything on the record to the US authorities - gulp.
Note company is reasonably highly rated / expensive so there isn't a massive wriggle room for many things to wrong here if we want upward trajectory in shareprice to continue.
Some have questioned if lfl growth in core markets (poss other than us) is slowing too
I would say this company has been fairly dependable delivering decent results so its entirely possible that all the negative items may vanish in a puff of fresh air at some stage if the company keeps delivering decent numbers and issues mentioned above turn out not to be material compared to the things they are doing right - they certainly don't need a poor trading update right about now though , unles you are looking to add at cheaper again prices - or are short.
seriously starting to wonder whether people actually even read the SCVR post, or whether than just open it up, scroll straight to the comments section and then post about BOO
Not sure why your readers worry so much about what is after all another messaging board.
As you have suggested I don't read the SCVR post unless there is something of specific interest. I skip to the comments forum as this is the most interesting and useful section.
For example, rmilaree post is excellent and balanced considering the stock is owned. Freedom to all subscribers to post when and where they like.
BSV
Likewise, I’m a new investor (3+ months). Mainly invested in funds until now. I’m a bit late to the party so my initial purchases are mainly down but a few are doing ok. No matter. I’m in it for the longer term. Lots to learn still.
I too would appreciate a thread for £BOO. (I hold)
Thanks Paul et al. for all the information and observations you present. Very informative.
There are already several Boohoo (LON:BOO) threads.
Hi Richard
On Boohoo (LON:BOO) without tooting my own trumpet I would pop over to the discussion thread I created at https://www.stockopedia.com/co... on Booho and all of the posts under discussion tab where there are a lot of insights into Boohoo's share price weakness.
Regards
Michael
Good update from Cambridge Cognition Holdings (LON:COG) this morning:
"The Company enjoyed a strong performance in the first half of 2021, delivering significant growth in revenues, in particular from digital solutions for clinical trials. Order intake was above the Board's expectations at £8.6 million. This includes £6.4 million of substantial orders announced previously, of which two were unusually large orders that totalled £3.6 million.
The outlook remains positive and the Company remains on track to be profitable in 2021. The Company has an attractive forward pipeline of opportunities, although, at this time, without the rare, one-off opportunities highlighted in the previous two half-year periods. With increasing investment in commercial activities and continued product development, the Company is well positioned for further year-on-year revenue growth. The rising cash balance provides the business with further opportunities to invest for future growth. "
I just found myself tripping over the two phrases in bold ... wondering why they felt the need to highlight this in two different places in the RNS. Possibly the company feels the share price has gotten somewhat ahead of itself and this is a form of expectations management? Would be very interested in others' thoughts!
Hi Welwichia
Cambridge Cognition (LON:COG)
I like that Management mentioned that the 2 large orders in the last 2 periods are rare and that the pipeline of opportunities is nonetheless still attractive. It is good that management can sound a note of caution. Nonetheless this is an excellent progress update. I also prefer lots of small contracts rather than a few large ones. If a small company loses a large contract, it can have a huge impact.
Most of all I like that the forward visibility of revenues booked for future years. FinnCap ( who will have agreed their forecasts with Cambridge Cognition management) now provide FY22 expectations, 60% of FY22 revs are booked. They have also upgraded FY21 to 50% ahead of 2020 and SP to 220p. Year end cash is expected to be £7.0m which is excellent but does include forward payment from contracts. This is a massive change from where COG was 2 years ago.
I hold so I am biased
thanks for your thoughts re £COG Michael. I agree, the level of honesty and transparency from the management here is reassuring.
>> If a small company loses a large contract, it can have a huge impact.
This is exactly what has me feeling just a little apprehensive ... not too long ago we saw what happened to Ixico (LON:IXI) when a large contract came to an end prematurely as the clinical trial was halted. Anyway, for me this is a long-term hold and I am willing to stomach any short-term volatility if required.
Welwichia
I think management are trying to stop expectations running away too far. I prefer this caution to a nasty shock later.
The statement said "at this time." about the large contracts so this can change.
I am aware of the recent issue at Ixico (LON:IXI). Their client who stopped the clinical trial was worth 60% of Ixico revenue which is why I am not a great fan of these massive contracts.
From the 2019 Cambridge Cognition (LON:COG) Annual report:
The Group maintains close relationships with a number of customers but aims not to be overly dependent on any
one of them. During 2019, one customer accounted for 20% (2018: 12%) of the total revenue of the business
though no other customer accounted for more than 10%. Over recent years, the increased diversity of our product
offering has led to an increased diversity in our customer base that has continued to mitigate this risk. It is useful
to note that for this large customer in 2019, revenue came from a number of projects using a number of our
products. Nonetheless, there is a risk that the loss of a major customer would result in a revenue shortfall.
I hold
Michael
thanks again Michael. I find there is a bit of an art to parsing these RNS notes and it is great to have the opportunity here for some sense-checking ... appreciate the thoughtful input!
Welwichia - understanding RNS written by a variety of companies and directors is definitely an art. At art which is improved if one has as good as possible understanding of the company and directors.
My morning smallcap tweet:
Lamprell (LON:LAM) PCF (LON:PCF) Cambridge Cognition Holdings (LON:COG) Vietnam Holding (LON:VNH) A G Barr (LON:BAG) Aeorema Communications (LON:AEO) Belvoir (LON:BLV) Filtronic (LON:FTC) St James House (LON:TNT) Plant Health Care (LON:PHC), Seeing Machines (LON:SEE), Flowtech Fluidpower (LON:FLO)
Lamprell (LAM) guides H1(June) rev $175m. EBITDA expectations remain at broadly breakeven levels. Working capital managed to allow additional time for the debt and/or equity funding to be secured. "Planned potential equity raise of USD 30-60 million to complete in Q4 2021, instead of Q3 2021...If the Group is unsuccessful in concluding the working capital facility with the banks, the Group plans to raise capital through equity of $120-150m." [SP=42 Cap=144m]
PCF (PCF) accounts for 2020 still not ready. H1(Mar 21) will be published after FY20 [SP=23.8 Cap=60m]
Cambridge Cognition (COG) guides H1(June) rev £4.5m up 50%, order intake above the Board's expectations at £8.6m. Co remains on track to be profitable in 2021. [SP=166.9 Cap=52m]
VietNam (VNH) proposed tender for up to 30% of shares at prevailing NAV less 2%. [SP=244 Cap=104m]
AG Barr(BAG) guides 27 week H1(Aug) rev up 18% or 13% for 26 weeks. FY profit guided in line. [SP=566 Cap=634m]
Aeorema Communications (AEO) guides FY(June) op loss c. £230k (£175k). "Outlook for the start of the new financial year is very strong: H1 2022 revenues are anticipated to be greater than any previous interim period on record." In line? [SP=30.98 Cap=3m]
Belvoir (BLV) guides H1(June) rev up 41% and up 53% on 2019, well ahead of mgmt exp. [SP=296 Cap=108m]. I hold.
Filtronic (FTC) FY(May) in line. Outlook "There are clear signs of pent-up demand in our end markets, which we are well positioned to capitalise on given the recent investments we have made and the evolving market landscape." [SP=11.08 Cap=24m]
Tintra (TNT) name change from St James House. [SP=NA Cap=NA]
Plant Health Care (PHC) will trade on the US OTCQB Venture Market from today. [SP=13.67 Cap=41m]
In line: Seeing Machines (LON:SEE) Flowtech Fluidpower (LON:FLO)
A Chinese state media outlet is describing online video gaming as “spiritual opium” that is destroying a generation. Tencent shares are down 10% after they were particularly named in the article. I don’t know if that will affect the Sumo takeover but it must reduce the chances of Chinese bids for other U.K. video games studios.
https://www.scmp.com/tech/arti...
surely the tax revenue they provide make this a fairly hollow attack.
Tax revenue doesn't come into it. China is seeking to break quasi-monopolies in response to food inflation, which would be a stake to the heart of the CCP if it lifts off. If they lower the price of everything else (including real estate- see market control ramped up), they might just hang in there.
Not sure if that’s a clever reference that’s gone over my head but the original Opium war was launched because the Chinese emperor was dismayed both by the moral decay of the people and the outflow of silver.
Calling video games “digital opium” is a very strong condemnation in the context of Chinese history and not something they will compromise on for a relatively small tax take.
If anything it will make the Sumo acquisition a done deal. If I were in Tencent strategy dept I would now pursue overseas growth in gaming apps vs domestic. Barely any regulations at all in most markets worldwide.
Mild profit warning out of TCAP today; I hold.
Belvoir (LON:BLV) Nice pre close trading up date 'Ahead of Expectations'. I hold - shame I only opened a starter position after their previous presentation.
https://www.londonstockexchang...
Good Idea Paul, could Stocko somehow provide an easily navigable route to these? as I find some of the stocko navigation easily confusing to the dim (me).
Fuzzy. First type the name of the company in search. In the line that starts with stock report and ends with discussion, click on discussion. This then gives you the history of all discussions on that stock. Been here over a year and still finding my way round! Hope that helps.
Excellent idea to have individual threads of some popular shares.
Not something that can be solved by Paul, but can't the tech team have the discussion board self-sort by recent posts ala Reddit? That way topics that are popular move up in the board and stay there.
The most recent posts bring the topic to the top of the discuss tab on the left hand side on the new site.