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Daily Stock Market Report (Tue 25 Feb 2025) - Selling pressure, CMCX, WG., OTB, STAF, JSE, MCB, TTG

Good morning!

1pm: I'm afraid we've run out of time for now!


Spreadsheet that accompanies this report: updated to 14/2/2025.


Companies Reporting

Name (Mkt Cap)RNSSummaryOur view (Author)

Smith & Nephew (LON:SN.)

Final Results

U/L Rev +5.3%, EPS +1.7%. 2025 targeting +5% rev. growth & improved profit margin

Croda International (LON:CRDA) ((£4.5b)

Final Results

2024 sales -4% (no Covid-19 sales), adj. PBT -16% (£260m). Outlook: adj. PBT £265-295m.

Unite (LON:UTG) (£4.2b)

Final Results

2024 adj. earnings +16% (£214m). Net tangible assets 972p vs 859p share price. Outlook: encouraging.

Lion Finance (LON:BGEO) (£2.4b)

Final Results

Changed name to Lion Finance. Loan book +65.9% year-on-year. Total dividend +12.5%.

CMC Markets (LON:CMCX) (£592m)Directorate ChangeSP -7% (-12% initially)
CFO agrees with the Board to step down with immediate effect. He is thanked. Will support an orderly handover.
GREEN (Graham) [no section below]
It’s a little unsettling as it’s abrupt and it sounds like he was pushed out, which raises the question as to why. Despite being with the company for c. 20 years, he was only CFO for 18 months. Personally I am not too concerned. My assumption is that it’s a CFO appointment that just didn’t work out entirely as they hoped it would. CMCX shares  are down by 45% from their high and now pass six bullish stock screens.

On Beach group (LON:OTB) (£381m)

AGM TU

Confident in delivering FY25 adj. PBT in line with consensus exps. Transaction value +10% y/y.

GREEN (Graham)
Forward PER is less than 12x for a successful online business that has at times in the past been valued at more than £500m. Quality metrics should hopefully improve as profits grow, due to asset light business model. Very interesting candidate for further research.

Victorian Plumbing (LON:VIC) (£302m)

AGM TU

Confident profits will be in line with exps. Rev +5% y/y.

dotDigital (LON:DOTD) (£267m)

Interim Results

Rev +10%. Adj. EBITDA +11%. Momentum continued into H2. On track to meet exps for FY25.

John Wood (LON:WG.) (£257m)

Possible Offer

In cash, but no indicative price given.

PINK (takeover) / RED (high risk) (Mark)
Selling themselves to a financially secure bidder solves a lot of the short-term issues, so accepting an offer makes sense. However, the bidder must know this, and their offer, if it comes, will surely reflect this. Without any price indication from either party, we are in the dark.

McBride (LON:MCB) (£248m)

Half-year Report

Flat rev. Adj. EPS +25% to 11.9p. In line for FY earnings. Net debt reduced to £117.6m.

AMBER/GREEN (Graham)
Making progress towards a PER of 8x which is roughly where I think it might be trading at fair value. A dividend is planned as the company starts to deploy its vastly improved balance sheet strength.

City of London Investment (LON:CLIG) (£181m)

Half Year Results

FuM $10.1bn as of 31st Jan 2025 (Dec 2023: $9.6bn). H1 adj. PBT $15.2m (H1 LY: $13.3m).

TT electronics (LON:TTG) (£150m)

Update on 2024 Final Results

SP -7%
Two week delay to complete audit. Adj. op profit in line. Leverage within target. Goodwill impairment.

BLACK/AMBER (Graham)
There's a profit warning for 2025-2026 as the improvement plan at a US site is taking longer than anticipated. The adj. operating margin target is not expected to be achieved in 2026. There are too many complications here for my liking, even if it is very cheap in simple PER terms.

Jadestone Energy (LON:JSE) (£168m)

Trading Update & Production Guidance

2024 production 18,696 boe/d. FY25 guidance 19,000 - 22,500 boe/d. 25-27 FCF $270-360m.

AMBER (Mark - I hold)
Production guidance is below my expectations, but an independent report highlights the continued valuation disparity here.

Avation (LON:AVAP) (£97m)HY ReportRev +20% to $55.4m, EBITDA +45% to $55.6m, Op Profit +7% to $18.8m, NAV +3.2% to £2.94.(Mark - I hold)

See upcoming Stock Pitch for Mark's analysis of AVAP!

Staffline (LON:STAF) (£32m)

Disposal of PeoplePlus

£6.9m net received incl. £2m deferred consideration.

AMBER (Mark)
This looks like a poor price for PeoplePlus at just 3.8x PBT. Putting the money into a buyback should support the price, but I have to question if the balance sheet is really strong enough for this. It looks like reasonable value on FY25 forecasts, though.

Aurrigo International (LON:AURR) (£28m)

Full Year TU

Rev £8.9m (in line), LBITDA £1.9m (better than exps). Well capitalised after the January funding round.


Graham's Section

On Beach group (LON:OTB)

Up 2% to 241.7p (£389m) - AGM TU - Graham - GREEN

This update is in line.

Please note that OTB’s year-end is in September, so we are being updated on progress since then.

Some key points:

  • Total transaction value +10%

  • TTV +18% for Winter 24/25, +17% for March-June.

  • Summer TTV +19%, and “the current positive booking trends provide the Group with confidence that Summer 25 will be significantly ahead of Summer 24”.

The company-compiled consensus is for adj. PBT of £38.2m this year.

Buyback: 64% of the £25m buyback programme has been completed.

CEO comment:

I am pleased to report double digit Group TTV growth with new and existing customers trusting On the Beach to help them holiday better and reflecting the strength and breadth of our holiday proposition.

I am really excited by the progress we have made following the recent launch of our strategic growth initiatives focused on selling City packages and package holidays from the Republic of Ireland. Demand for Cities has been strong with routes to Amsterdam, Paris and Krakow proving particularly popular with both existing and new customers. Similarly, our first marketing campaign in the Republic of Ireland has generated strong bookings growth across both City and beach…

Graham’s view

Roland has covered this one recently, e.g. in December when he was GREEN (at 194p).

This company has at times been valued at £500m+, both pre-Covid and post-Covid. When that happened in the past, it usually looked overvalued to me.

In more recent years, the share price has been in something of a slump. But its profits are on track to far exceed pre-Covid levels this year. I think the market could give it a bit more credit for its financial recovery.

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It’s now trading at a PER of <12x, which in my view is not particularly challenging for a successful online business that's growing market share.

And forecast momentum is positive:

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I’m hopeful that OTB’s “asset light, low fixed cost operating model” will see its quality metrics return to their previously very high levels, as its revenues and profits grow. That is the only piece of the jigsaw puzzle that's missing.

I’m therefore happy to leave Roland’s GREEN stance unchanged.

In passing, I should mention that I’ve noticed a lot of strength in the pound against the euro over the past year, as the euro has fallen from 86p to 83p:

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There are other factors at play of course but this swing in purchasing power can’t hurt when it comes to UK demand for Euro holidays!


McBride (LON:MCB)

Up 1.5% to 144.65p (£252m) - Half-year Report - Graham - AMBER/GREEN

McBride, the leading European manufacturer and supplier of private label and contract manufactured products for the domestic household and professional cleaning/hygiene markets, announces its unaudited interim results for the six months ended 31 December 2024 (the 'period').

We already had an H1 trading update that I reported on in December.

Therefore let’s skip ahead to today’s outlook section.

Emphasis added by me:

Full-year earnings on track to be in line with internal expectations
Private label markets expected to maintain higher share penetration as cost-of-living challenges continue
Materials costs mostly stable going into the second half; other inflation remains a headwind
Transformation initiatives maturing over the next twelve months, delivering further benefits
Normalised funding position, providing the Group with optionality for value creation

The “normalised funding position” is key, as MCB survived a debt scare and is now in a far healthier place, with more options now in terms of how it proceeds from here.

Net debt has fallen by a remarkable £28m to £118m (Dec 2023: £146m).

The company reports a “net debt cover ratio” which I would refer to as the leverage multiple. It’s the net debt to EBITDA multiple, as calculated by MCB’s banks.

This leverage multiple is just 0.6x as of Dec 2024, vs. 1.2x as of Dec 2023. Back in June 2023, it was 2.9x.

CEO comment:

McBride today reports excellent half-year results, which are in line with our new elevated financial performance expectations and on track with the medium-term targets outlined at our Capital Markets Day in March 2024. Our divisional teams continue to execute their respective strategies, with all five divisions healthily profitable. These results demonstrate a business delivering a consistently improved performance.
With the Group's prospects in a much healthier position and with a more normalised debt position, the Board recently announced its intention to reinstate an annual dividend, details of which will be communicated at the time of the final results in September 2025.

Estimates

Thanks again to Zeus for publishing on MCB.

They upgraded their forecasts in January and make no change today. Forecasts for the current year (FY June 2025) include revenue of £952m, adj. EBITDA of £84m, and adj. PBT of £49m.

These forecasts suggest a modest reduction in profitability this year, due to higher costs, before hopefully returning to profit growth in subsequent financial years.

Graham’s view

I suggested previously that a fair price for this would involve a high single-digit P/E multiple.

Normally I would put manufacturers of commoditised products on very low PERs (e.g. 5x). MCB arguably deserves better that that, due to:

  • Strong positioning in private label during a time of cost-of-living pressures.

  • Very high ROCE both according to Stockopedia (35%) and itself (35%).

  • Transformation programme with an ambition to deliver £50m of benefits over five years - we can’t blindly trust this but even partial success could be of great benefit.

So in my mind, a PER in the high single-digits makes sense. In principle, that’s fair for a manufacturer of cheap cleaning products that’s performing very well, appears to have good prospects and has improved its balance sheet, while still carrying net debt.

Zeus also put a price target on this (180p) that represented a PER of 8x.

It is getting there:

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Please note that despite the dividend yield shown above, no dividend has been proposed or paid yet, not since the year 2020. But a dividend is expected later this year.

Sometimes a dividend announcement can be a catalyst for a positive share price reaction. In this case, I expect that the market has already gone a long way towards pricing in the dividend announcement, as it has been flagged well in advance and the brokers are forecasting it.

At 180p-200p I’d be tempted to switch back to a neutral stance.

For now I can remain moderately positive.


TT electronics (LON:TTG)

Down 7% to 78p (£138m) - Update on 2024 Final Results - Graham - AMBER

It’s remarkable that TTG rejected a bid at 140p from Volex (LON:VLX). According to the TTG Board, they also received and rejected an all-cash bid from someone else “at a significantly higher value” than the Volex bid.

And here we are with the share price at just 78p.

I was previously bullish on TTG, but I turned neutral on it last September after a major profit warning rocked my confidence in management. There were “operational efficiency issues” which forced me to question my positive view on the company.

Today we learn of a delay to the results:

TT Electronics plc ("TT", "the Group"), a global engineer and manufacturer of electronic solutions for critical applications, announces a delay of up to two weeks to the release of its final results for the year ended 31 December 2024 due to additional time required to complete the audit.

Results were previously scheduled for March 4th.

A bit like an abrupt CFO resignation, delayed accounts can be interpreted as a (potentially serious) sign that all is not well. For example, a delay can in theory result from too much complexity in an organisation, issues with record-keeping, management unhappiness with the results, etc.

New CFO

TTG’s CFO was due to step down on March 4th. His replacement has already been lined up.

This change will also be pushed back by two weeks.

I note that the new CFO was most recently the CFO at Ceres Power Holdings (LON:CWR). He stepped down from that role last September “to pursue other interests”. I turned negative on CWR last week due to concerns relating to its cash burn - hopefully I don’t need to turn negative on TTG for some time!

2024 results in line

We get confirmation that 2024 adj. operating profit is expected to be in line, and that leverage is within the target range 1-2x.

According to the Nov 2024 trading update, FY24 adj. operating profit was expected to be at the lower end of the range, £37-42m.

Less positively:

In light of the previously disclosed downturn in components demand and operational execution challenges in North America there is likely to be a non-cash accounting impairment of goodwill and fixed assets for the region of up to £35 million as well as a prior year results adjustment of up to £6 million in relation to the Cleveland site

Impairments and prior year adjustments are the type of thing that can delay results.

2025 outlook - profit warning

We continue to expect good adjusted operating profit progress relative to 2024 but expect the outturn to be in the range of £40 million to £46 million. The improvement plan for Cleveland is underway but the benefits will take longer to realise than originally anticipated. We continue to drive our action plans to work towards our medium term 12% adjusted operating margin target, however we now do not expect this to be delivered in 2026.

Graham’s view

Even at the lower end of the 2025 forecast earnings range, this is very cheap.

Stockopedia’s valuation metrics are all very green:

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So it’s very tempting for me to resume my positivity on this. Especially considering that other companies were willing to pay 140p per share (and more) for it.

However, I feel unable to turn positive on it yet.

The prior profit warning, as I’ve already mentioned, shook my confidence in management.

Remediation of the problems which caused that profit warning are ongoing - the problems have not been fixed.

Similarly, expectations for profit margins to improve towards a new target have also been pushed back.

And now we have a delay to the results, as a new CFO waits to take the hot seat.

The only major bright spot is that leverage is within the target range. But I wonder how close it might be to 2x, the upper end of that range? We’ll have to wait and see.

I do think this share is intriguing at this valuation, and could be worth looking into in further detail. But I can’t quite force myself to take a positive stance on it. There are just too many complications for my liking.


Mark's Section

Selling Pressure on Small Caps

Yesterday seemed an unusually weak day for smaller caps, and AIM in particular. The AIM All Share was down 1%:

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This is a reasonable amount but not out of the ordinary. However, several individual stocks have been more badly hit. For example, Renold (LON:RNO) fell 5.5%:

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I’m no great chartist, but the drop below a psychologically important 40p level on increasing volume is perhaps portentous of more downside to come:

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All this may be just noise, but it suggests to me that a fund somewhere is a keen seller. In illiquid markets, this can severely hit share prices in the short term. I wrote about the impact that such fund wind-downs could have here. At the time, the risk was that Miton UK Microcap Trust (LON:MINI) would be forced to wind down. This has now been announced, although shareholders can move their holding to an open-ended equivalent, which means that not all these positions will hit the market:

Shareholders will have the option to roll over their investment into shares in the Premier Miton UK Smaller Companies Fund, an FCA authorised open-ended investment company with assets of approximately £45.3 million (which is expected to be the default option), and/or receive a cash exit. This proposal follows shareholder feedback in support of the investment manager and will allow Shareholders to retain exposure to a small and micro cap strategy.

Here are their top 20 holdings from the January fact sheet:

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Another factor impacting the UK closed-end fund market is that the US hedge fund Saba Capital has been targeting funds for wind-down. The latest one is Herald Investment Trust (LON:HRI) , where Saba owns 29.1%. While resolutions to replace the manager there recently failed, the trust is warning that they could be facing a negative outcome from an upcoming continuation vote if other shareholders don’t vote.

All this means we could be seeing further forced selling in smaller companies. This doesn’t change the fundamental value of the businesses and actually creates opportunities for those with capital to deploy and a long-term investing horizon. However, it can make for tricky markets to navigate when holdings drop for what appears to be no reason.


John Wood (LON:WG.)

Up 9% to 40p - Possible Offer - PINK (takeover) / RED (high risk)

Yesterday afternoon, the FT ran an article titled “Embattled Wood Group enters takeover talks with UAE’s Sidara”. The company responded by saying it:

…confirms that it has received an approach from Dar Al-Handasah Consultants Shair and Partners Holdings Ltd ("Sidara") in relation to a possible offer for the entire issued and to be issued share capital of the Company (the "Proposal ").

Which was then confirmed by Sidara:

Sidara notes the recent announcement by Wood and confirms that Sidara made a preliminary approach to the Board of Wood regarding a possible cash offer for the entire issued share capital of Wood.

Importantly, Sidara also confirmed that they are not bound by restrictions on making an offer after their previously aborted attempt:

Sidara is no longer bound by the restrictions under Rule 2.8 of the Code that were in place following its announcement on 5 August 2024 that it did not intend to make a firm offer for Wood.

During the previous offer period, Sidara made four proposals, and 230p was enough to get the board to open the books. However, shortly after they completed due diligence, Sidara announced they would not make an offer, citing "rising geopolitical risks and financial market uncertainty".

They may well have spotted the onerous contracts that have caused the share price to collapse, too! However, the 23p the shares were trading at prior to this news is a bit of a different proposition from 230p. So I can easily see why Sidara is back. I can also see why the board would consider an offer at what will no doubt be a fraction of the price previously discussed. After all, this is what Graham said less than two weeks ago:

Totally uninvestable. Admits it has problems with its financial culture. Terrible balance sheet, debts expiring next year. Needs to fix a range of problems before I'd consider changing my stance.

Selling themselves to someone more financially secure goes a long way to solving their short-term issues. However, Sidara must also be aware of this, and an offer, if it comes, will no doubt reflect this.

Mark’s view

Fundamentally, this doesn’t change the underlying nature of the business. So, as a rating on Wood Group themselves, this remains a RED. However, the rationale for selling themselves to Sidara seems compelling, and I can easily see an offer being made. I have no idea what level it could be at or whether it will be recommended, though. This makes it a special situation, and investors will need to do their own probabilistic assessment of the various possible outcomes to determine if the shares are worth buying/selling/holding at 40p. I wrote an article on how to do that here.


Staffline (LON:STAF)

Up 15% to 27.5p - Sale of PeoplePlus - Mark - AMBER

This is a major shake-up for this blue-collar staffing business as they sell the training part of the company. This has been underperforming for several years now and was one of the major factors in the most recent profits warning earlier this month when they said:

PeoplePlus faces challenges due to prolonged delays in public sector bid announcements, which will weigh on short-term results.

At the time, Zeus took 28% out of PBT forecasts for FY25 and reduced FY26 by a whopping 38%. Despite this, the shares rose as the market perhaps saw this as the low point and the end of the downgrade cycle. This makes it a strange time to be selling this division. After all, they are not getting much for it. The headline figure of £12m, quickly gets reduced by the adjustments:

The consideration is on a cash free, debt free basis and subject to a deduction of £5.1m of advanced payments received in respect of future revenue. The net proceeds of the Disposal (including the deferred consideration) are expected to be £6.9m. The £2.0m of deferred consideration is contingent on the commencement of potential new contracts expected to take place within the next 12 months.

So that is £4.9m cash today for a business that despite underperforming expectations had the following unaudited results:

For FY 2024, PeoplePlus contributed approximately £65m* of revenues to the Group and generated profit before tax of approximately £1.3m*, with gross assets of c.£16m*ᶧ at 31 December 2024.

That works out to be 0.08 P/S and just 3.8xPBT. The asset side is complicated by an intercompany debtor balance of £23.4m. Looking at previous subsidiary accounts, this appears to be at least partially due to money paid upfront to PeoplePlus that they lent to the parent. Either way, it seems hard to argue that Staffline got a great price for this business.

The cash they will recieve, and more, is being used on a sizable buyback up to a maximum of £7.5m. This would be around 18% of the market cap at current prices. The size of this appears to be why the market has bid the price of the stock up this morning. Their broker, Zeus, say:

We adjust forecasts for the disposal and share buyback, with the net impact being a 2.3%
increase to underlying diluted EPS in FY25 and 12.1% increase in FY26.

However, these are nowhere near the magnitude of the recent downgrades. The company reports net cash in the recent trading update:

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And forecasts for net cash are actually reduced by Zeus in their latest note, presumably as the buyback is for more than the cash proceeds. However, the forecast of £5.5m of net interest costs shows that this doesn’t represent the true underlying picture. Instead, there is off-balance sheet debt as they have factored receivables on a non-recourse basis. At the half year, they had net debt, with on balance sheet working capital roughly equal. The net cash reported at 31st December is likely to be reflected by a negative working capital position. So I struggle to see this as a strong balance sheet. In the past, any issues, such as adverse minimum wage judgements, have seen them have to raise equity from the market.

This means that the argument by the brokers that we should value this on an EV basis looks spurious to me. However, looking at the P/E, a forward figure 8 looks reasonable value if you believe the downgrade cycle is over.

Mark’s view

A buyback of this size should support the share price in the short term, but it also increases the risk. The net cash they report is almost certainly at the expense of maintaining a negative working capital position. The price they got for PeoplePlus looks underwhelming. However, if the forecasts are accurate, this isn’t expensive. I find it hard to get excited by this type of business, hence I’m neutral overall. AMBER

Jadestone Energy (LON:JSE)

Down 6% to 29p - Trading Update - Mark (I hold) - AMBER

Production comes in line with previous guidance, and is a decent uplift versus the previous year:

2024 average production of 18,696 boe/d, a year-on-year increase of 35% (2023: 13,813 boe/d).

However, the company had previously said that they expect production at the lower end of 18.5-21kboepd. So while no further miss will come as some relief to embattled shareholders (of which I am one), this should be viewed in that context. However, I am a little underwhelmed by the forward production guidance:

Production: 19,000 - 22,500 boe/d

Bear in mind that the company previously reported:

During October 2024, average daily Group production was over 22,000 boe/d and for various periods reached a record in excess of c.24,000 boe/d as Akatara intermittently achieved its daily contract quantity rate of c.20mmscf/d.

Some of this will be due to the natural decline of mature fields and planned shutdowns for maintenance, but it is disappointing to see them guide below the previous production rate without Akatara at full daily contract. This may be the new management making sure they finally under-promise an over-deliver, but until we get some actual 2025 production numbers, this is hard to judge.

Things are better on the cost front, with OPEX guided in line with FY24 despite increased production and, having taken on $100m or so of net debt in order to develop Akatara, capex is guided to be much lower and is focussed on the Skua-11 sidetrack in Q2 which will increase Montara production. So the good news is that the financial situation should be transformed:

Based on an US$70-80/bbl Brent oil price range, the Group expects to deliver c.US$270-360 million of free cash flow (pre debt servicing) over the 2025-2027 period…
The 2P reserves are valued by ERCE at US$799 million, or an implied per share value of 102 GBp after deducting the Group's year-end 2024 net debt position of US$104.8 million.

While it would be nice to see more details, and I question whether a discount rate of 10% adequately covers the risk of oil production, this suggests that the shares remain undervalued on a DCF basis.

Mark’s view

This is a bad news/good news update, with production guidance below my expectations, but confirmation of the continued transformation of the finances of the business. I retain my AMBER rating until there are signs that these forecast production figures are conservative or the forecast prodigious cash flow starts to flow back to shareholders.

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Beware some prices are incorrect on here: Everplay (LON:EVPL) is 264p on here, it is not it is only 218p.

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UK small caps: the selling elastic continues to stretch at some point, heaven knows when it will snap!

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Further to my earlier message about investment in the UK stock market, have just seen this video of Lord Lee's speech in the House of Lords. 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Umd3W...

 

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Bit depressing that pretty much everyone gets up to leave when he starts speaking - clearly of very limited interest to the political class so can't see this becoming much of a priority unfortunately. 

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The House of Lords looks a happening sort of place. Those that didn't leave looked like they had dozed off. One guy looked like he had croaked. Hopefully there is doctor on hand during these  intense debates.

A pity really as Lord Lee had given his speech some thought.

As regards greater public investment - have we not been here before?  During the tech boom everyone was wanting a trading account.  People who you never thought would be interested in stocks started talking about Marconi and Autonomy et al.

Of course it ended badly for many - which might be one factor in the UK's enthusiasm to hold cash.

Still, if you can capture the nations enthusiasm you might be able to reignite a stockmarket revolution. Probably wont start in the House of Lords though.

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I've always thought the house of lords must be one of the best money for old rope/feet up numbers on the planet.

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I was a little harsh -  as those who stayed in the chamber did so because they wanted to hear the debate. Well done for making the effort.. The question is why so few attend?  The opening speech was only 9 minutes long and certainly deserved more of an audience.

Same question really for the House of Commons. Quite often you will see a debate with maybe 20 to 30 MPs present.

As Bouden54 suggests, private investing looks to be very low on the agenda.

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Mr Google says - Members of the House of Lords, who are not paid a salary, may claim a daily allowance of £332 (or may elect to claim a reduced daily allowance of £166) per sitting day – but only if they attend a sitting of the House and/or committee proceedings.

Twice a week should cover the ol exes, sit on something, meet some mates for lunch, dinner etc and off home - with the warm glow of inebriation of doing the country some good (sic). 

All of this stuff will be swept away with AI eventually, and eventually is very very close. 

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Halfords (LON:HFD) down a bit today, anyone know why?

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Looks like a worked sell of a block of shares. 

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Staffline (LON:STAF) deciding to waste the full proceeds and then more on top from the sale of their PeoplePlus business on a £7.5 million buyback is a classic example of how to throw money away.

When will commentators and  those who advise these Companies take a look at what happens to the share prices  of so many Companies who waste their money on buybacks. They would soon see that too often the end result is a lower share price than when the buybacks were started. 

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Hi Ken,

I take a slightly different view on buy backs, many of which do waste money.

Consider this, if a company has money to "invest" it can spend money on plant/equipment/developing software/ buying another company etc

In each case it will have to account and record the capital expenditure so that investors can see, over a period of time, whether that expenditure has reaped the required return.

I think it would be good to see the amount spent on share buybacks recorded as "capex" and each year the amount spent could be adjusted to see if it had made the required return.

Company management, and their remuneration,  would then be judged on their success or not!

Might concentrate their minds a bit.

Chris

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And we are interested in Staffline (LON:STAF) why?

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Fed up losing money over last four years. Know this is still the SCVR in mindset and maybe I will come back home soon with the US imploding but well as someone who has shares in Heiq (LON:HEIQ^K24) - (yes I have no idea what the ticker means) and THG (LON:THG) the scars are deep but keep hold because (1) would cost more to sell it, (2) learning - a lesson in buying the dream and not the facts. 

Lessons cost money. Not learning from them will cost you more money. 

Ok - owning up Im the small modular nukes guy - lol. It has to be fun otherwise just buy a house and rent it in a company wrapper. 

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I'm sorry but I don't see Jadestone Energy (LON:JSE) as amazing value. I'm always wary of 2P NAV valuations. FCF is what matters imo. Based on ave FCF of $40m per year for next 3 yrs (co forecasts) then EV/FCF valuation is currently x 7.5. FCF could be higher or lower, depends on oil price. When has this company met its forecasts ? That's not cheap, it's expensive. A cheap oiler EV/FCF valuation of comparable co would be x 2-3  FCF.  Plus Jadestone has shocking recent operational track record, which could continue as they still have the Montara Venture FPSO that has caused them all the problems. Other issues - decom costs, interest payments, lack of clear mgt leadership team as currently have temp exec chairman. This company is in a hole & it's still trying to claw its way out with uncertain prospects of doing so imo. The company's whole strategy was based on M & A. There's zero to little chance of them doing M & A for next few years as they need to try and get on a secure operational & financial footing. Where's the next catalyst coming from ? I can't see one. Sorry to be negative but good luck to holders.

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Thanks for the info. I wondered why there was a drag on Concurrent Technologies (LON:CNC) and Beeks Financial Cloud (LON:BKS) , now we know

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Agreed Paul, me too. Shares falling due to forced sales nothing to do with the business should be a good buying opportunity. Concurrent have dropped almost 20% in a very short timeframe for example. I hold both.

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So do I. MTI Wireless Edge (LON:MWE) is one that should be moving up but now we know why

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But these are both also very expensive on a P/E ratio relative to many other decent small cap stocks. They can't go up indefinitely without consolidating.

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Agreed murrb. The moment these businesses put out updates which show a slowdown or worse they will get a big pull back.
But that hasn’t been seen here, either in recent market updates or in future forecasts. 

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CMCX I find it rather curious that for a company growing its revenues by 20%pa for the last 5 years should be3 on a PE of 9.AJ Bell (LON:AJB) has been growing at the same pace but has a PE of 18. This is much more in line with what I'd expect from a rapidly-growing company.

IG group (LON:IGG) (I hold) has been growing its revenues by about 15%pa. It, too, is on a PE of 9. There are concerns about it going ex-growth, so maybe that's the problem.  Its P/FCF is around 6, which is cheap under most circumstances, and I think especially so given its high returns on capital.

CMCX is still expected to grow faster than IGG though.

Let's just hope there are no nasties hiding in the woodwork with CMCX. I don't hold.

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Re the relative valuations of CMC Markets (LON:CMCX) , IG group (LON:IGG) and AJ Bell (LON:AJB), I think to answer that you just have to consider what would happen to the profits of all three if the UK government (or maybe more likely the FCA outside the government) were to decide one day that offering spreadbetting and CFDs to non-professional investors should be stopped.

I'm not in any way suggesting that this may happen, but it seems to me that AJB operates in a regulatory space where it's largely regarded as adding value (except for the issue of retaining interest on client balances), whereas the spreadbetting companies operate in a regulatory space where they're largely regarded as not offering good client outcomes.

Hopefully these are unfounded worries, I hold all three and have accounts with two of them, but I wouldn't hold CMCX and IGG at the same valuation as AJB.

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Take out gambling per se - across the board - horses, stocks, national lottery, football,  er whatever don't know - all these clowns will be interested in is can they tax it.

Now they want my pension fund to invest in wind far*s. Exit left. 

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In terms of earnings growth it depends on your starting point - they did 30p EPS in 2020 and 60p in 2021 (a bumper year no doubt). Forecasts for the coming year are 23p. Markets generally don't volatile earnings, and I would expect AJ Bell to be more highly rated given more predictable earnings. CMC don't help themselves by putting out these very terse, hard to decipher updates - we've had 2 this year which both times caused the share price to tank. 

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There was some talk in the FT (I think)  of a market mechanism of allowing private businesses to sell stakes to institutional investors. This was supposed to be a facility which support smaller companies who didn't want to through an IPO.

Allegedly it would help AIM in some strange way. Though the comments under the article seemed to disparage of it being new, innovative, or helping AIM in any way.

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You could be thinking of the Sunday Times business section, there was an article along those lines.

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TTG "Two week delay to complete audit." Oh dear. As the saying goes, bad numbers take longer to add up than good. 

"Adjusted operating profit is expected to be in line with prior guidance. Free cash flow generation has been strong and therefore year-end leverage is within our target range of 1-2x"

Shares are down 9.3%, so clearly the market is not convinced. Interest cover is 0.3 according to Stocko, which is eye-watering bad. ROCE over the last 5 years has been 2.5%, and ROE 0.5%. So perhaps no surprise that it is trading on a PBV of 0.6.

"TT Electronics plc provides engineered electronics for performance critical applications."

For a company that operates in "performance critical applications", you'd think their operating margins would be higher than 2.3%.

Verdict: Weak Sauce

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I wonder if Volex (LON:VLX) will feel they have dodged a bullet here ? Or might they be tempted to return with a new but lower bid ? Volex have a number of senior ex TTG  executives on board who should know the business well, warts and all.

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TT electronics (LON:TTG)

At least Volex has more up to date information on the problems should it be tempted. Having said that isn't Volex (LON:VLX) precluded from bidding again for a limited period, although I haven't looked at the rules of engagement?

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Good point Jonno. Just looked up the rules and I think that the six month rule applies here , which would take it to June 2025. TTG share price now is pretty well where it was just before the original volex approach. 

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The previous trading statement from CMC Markets (LON:CMCX) was extremely terse.  I am not sure why they didn't give more colour but it stopped me investing and the share price has drifted since. In Full:

The Group remains on track to achieve annual net operating income in line with previous guidance.

Management also remains confident in meeting its cost guidance of approximately £225 million, excluding variable remuneration and non-recurring charges.

What are they not telling us I wonder OR is this a fantastic opportunity? 

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CMC Markets (LON:CMCX)

What are they not telling us I wonder OR is this a fantastic opportunity? 


sorry bsharman but i dont understand your beef here - they said they remianed on track to meet net income and cost guidance. I dont see what more they can do. I would agree they could perhaps yardstick prior expectations ref net profits.

I dont think they can be much clearer though that the latest update was fine aan dandy. One to potentially watch out for is sneaky broker downgrades (look at whitbread for that in action)   - broker forecasts are unchanged.

So i am not sure what you are expecting ? 

Note you have to understand these companies can have huge variability ref good times and bad times - thats 100% inherent to their business model - so it makes sense to me you arent going to get any any over rosy promises or granular detail ref the future - and the end result can always be materially different from what they expect.

To be fair to the company every time they have gone through bad spell they have come out the other side with bounceback in profits.

Note stock has p/e of 9 here - for company with limited visibility ref future and acting in very "sketchy business segment" that could be targetted by authorities at any stage i am really not sure what p/e rating you expect this share to command? I would say it looks much better value now than  it did at over tn 300p mark - where rating was starting to get a little bit more racy.

Note perhaps the FD going here is a hands up moment to say to investors - oh you need more detail and we will get soemone that can deliver in that regard. If i had to guess though i would guess its business as usual with directors concentrating on generating profits rather than talking a story of how great the future will be !

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I have no beef with CMC Markets (LON:CMCX) but the terse/muted statement in January caused a selloff and there has been a drift down since. Now the CFO steps down. These are not green flags! In my opinion they look good value but the last two statements from the company do not fill me with confidence.   

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CMC Markets (LON:CMCX)

With concerns like this perhaps email to management is the best route forward.

I dont get your trading update concern though when they have explicitly stated they are on target - you just need to understand thats probably what you get from this company - looks very similar update to january 2024 lfl update.

I suspect thats simply the way they operate - zero fluff. some companies operate in that manner and there is no need to go off into consiprancy theories  - imho cmc is probably one of those companies that simply does over elaborate in any manner that doesnt mean they arent doing fine and dandy.

ref fd leaving thats separate potential  mini red flag in itself - however perhaps if its been made known to board stuff like recent "terse update" didint go down well - perhaps  there is potential for this to be CFO upgrade - if i had to guess i suspect the cfo here likely kowtows to the main man himself . 

If Man Cruddas owns 60% of the company still you have to accept the reality that he may very well do exactly as he pleases and there is nowt you can do but accept that (or not invest)

Note to be fair to company they have consensus forecasts for 2025 and 2026 on their website with confirmation that was last updated in january.

so i suspect its just how they do things and that any over reading of the tea leaves (other than fd leaving beijng an obbious red flag) may be you barking up the wrong tree. Time will tell in that regard.


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I am just standing back and looking at the share price - I therefore can't be the only one who has concerns. I am not saying it is a conspiracy but I am saying that THE MARKET didn't like the terse statement hence the ongoing selling. Nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors but if that is their way of communicating then fine!

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Sorry but they could have definitely provided a bit more colour. The update sounded downright petulant and no doubt a factor behind the subsequent share prices fall. 

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CMC Markets (LON:CMCX)

Sorry but they could have definitely provided a bit more colour.

I am not saying they copuldnt have done - just pointing out that they "updated on trading" and that update was similar to prior year

. Not trying to jutify company just spell out that i think they have been reasonably consistent ref updates being potentially viewed as "terse" or lacking fluff - i suspect that Mr Cruddas if he still owns 60% doesnt care too much what small investors think or want. Sometimes you need to accept the reality (or move on) - i for one though would presume that if they have said they are on target and have published targets for 2025 and 2026 i wouldnt personally be looking for  any "problems. Facts are with this company is that it ebbs and flows on updates - i suspect share price weakness is more to do with lack of things being "better than expecteed " and that at pe of 15 or whatever it was many simply moved on when then update confirmed that as things stand through to 2026 expectations are for moderate decline in eps rather than forward progress . Personally if i was a guessing man i would guess they are more likely to be be conservative than  pimping up bad trading - there you go though same text can create two directly opposite viewpoints. I suspect even Pete may have limited knowledge ref next 3 months never mind 24 months !

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If there is all this forced selling and Investment Trusts going into wind-downs, what is the future for UK stock markets, especially at the smaller end? It seems as if there has been constant selling pressure for years- If institutions are not buying then who is? Private investors? This is surely unsustainable and the UK government needs to quickly come up with a solution to promote capital markets and investing in general. There is a vast chasm between the knowledge and participation in stock markets in the US and the UK. Economics, investment and money management should be taught in schools helping people to understand the concept of saving and investing for the future. Is the UK government going to wake up before it is too late??? 

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If there is all this forced selling and Investment Trusts going into wind-downs, what is the future for UK stock markets, especially at the smaller end?

There are a few easy wins:

  • As I noted yesterday, I can't see any reason for the UK to subsidise investing in overseas markets via ISAs and SIPPs. It makes no sense at all and banning new purchases of non-UK listed shares in vehicles with tax relief would be an obvious first step
  • The suggestions that Cash ISAs might also be restricted is also a sensible one - encouraging people to hoard cash is not in either the country's interest or the individuals'
  • Added to that the cost disclosure rules on investment trusts need to be radically reworked so that they properly reflect the costs and the benefits of using these as longer term investment vehicles.

More broadly the underinvestment in UK companies by our major financial institutions needs to be addressed, but that's partly a regulatory issue, especially for pension funds who need to match liabilities. Equities aren't ideal for that, but actual progress on the Mansion House accord and acceleration of the Pension Investment Review should be a priority for the government.

As and when this does turn around it'll be fast, but without some proper support behind it we're left watching good companies getting taken over on the cheap. It's frustrating, to put it mildly,

timarr

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Thanks for that reply Timarr and I agree on the easy wins - I just hope that the UK government are taking this seriously and accelerate any actions as they have been keen to talk about growth. I haven't seen anything tangible this far that will actually move the dial. Personally I am unsure about where to put my money to work - should I keep putting money into small and microcaps that never seem to go anywhere/depreciate in value (because of all the selling pressure) but *might* one day be in demand, US markets seem overvalued based on historic valuations/ CAPE etc. Seems like a rock and a hard place! Suggestions welcome!     

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While I understand the sentiment, I would be against banning private investors from investing in foreign stocks in ISA's/SIPPs. What about ETFs that hold foreign stocks, or investment trusts & funds? The rules would become complicated. More restrictive regulation is not the way to go in my opinion, incentives work better.

Things like the restoration of tax relief on dividends for pensions that G Brown abolished would do more to help. Institutions would surely create more of an uplift than private investors.

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While I understand the sentiment, I would be against banning private investors from investing in foreign stocks in ISA's/SIPPs. What about ETFs that hold foreign stocks, or investment trusts & funds?

If they're UK listed then they should be allowed. Those were the original PEP / ISA rules and they're trivial to implement. Might provide a nice boost to the beleagured investment trust sector.

While restoration of dividend tax relief is a nice idea it's not going to happen, especially given how debt laden we already are - so we need to look at what's possible rather than what's ideal.

As for whether this will move the dial - hard to know, but over £750 billion is held in ISAs, 450 billion in Stocks and Shares ISAs - which is more than the combined market cap of the FTSE250. The FTSE 100 is only worth £2 trillion, rather less than that of Apple (NSQ:AAPL).

To put it in perspective,  AIM's total market cap is just £100 million. It's a rounding error on ISA investments.

timarr

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AIM’s market cap is most definitely not £100m! You might be missing a few orders of magnitude there.

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The only thing I have to say at the moment is, if, as the Telegraph is suggesting, a US PE is seriously interested in bidding for Chemring, our response should be a clear and resounding NO!!

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MINI Another domino falls. Other mid-cap trusts have been consolidating last year. The downward pressure seems unending. If/when this does snap back, it's going to be doozy.

RNO EPS has nearly doubled over 10 years, which looks pretty good to me. The balance sheet doesn't seem to be under pressure. It's trading on a PE of 4.5, P/FCF of 4, and EV/EBITDA of 3.9. This would usually be regarded as extraordinarily cheap.

I don't hold.

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Renold (LON:RNO) I hold.  If you want a chart opinion then 35/36p looks like an exceptionally strong support level. (Of course Mr Market may think differently).
I cannot see anything wrong with how the company is doing other than very generous director share awards. 49% of company turnover now based in North America. Quality product with geographical diversity. Long term hold imo. 

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49% of company turnover now based in North America.

Tariffs?

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If production is in US then avoids UK/European tariffs. Note that part of 49% is in Canada with possible tariffs. 

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The tide is definitely going out for UK focused small caps. Unless the government does something significant to make the UK more attractive to investors then money will keep flowing out. I’m keep reviewing my slimed down portfolio and can see nothing wrong with the companies. However it is painful watching the share price drop.  Quote below copied from X so please don’t take as gospel. 

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On Miton UK Microcap Trust (LON:MINI) it is worth pointing out that on the last redemption point (see RNS of 5 Nov 2024), 40.4% of the shares asked to be redeemed.   The sale of the underlying assets was effectively completed by 24 Jan 2025.

Therefore while the upcoming likely winding up of Miton UK Microcap Trust (LON:MINI) will put further pressure on the list of assets mentioned, this might even be less than they were under the Nov-Jan period, depending how many of the remaining shareholders elect for the roll-over option.  

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Hi Graham

Not sure you can add anything, but the market does not like CMC Markets (LON:CMCX) losing it's CFO today:

CMC Markets plc (LON:CMCX), a leading provider of online financial trading and B2B institutional solutions, announces that Albert Soleiman has agreed with the board that he will step down as a director and as CFO with immediate effect. Mr Soleiman will remain with the firm for a period of time to support an orderly handover.

Mr Soleiman had only been CFO since September 2023, although he had been with the company since 2005. Obviously Peter Cruddas isn't happy with something.

timarr

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CFOs stepping down with immediate effect is usually a clear red flag and sign that something could be wrong

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CFOs stepping down with immediate effect is usually a clear red flag and sign that something could be wrong

In the case of a 20-year incumbent, it’s perhaps more likely to be a health issue than any incompetence. He was thanked in the RNS.

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Hard to tell, but the wording and tone sounds more like he was pushed out rather than him having to step down because of a health issue.

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CMC Markets (LON:CMCX) Does not sound like a health issue:  "Albert Soleiman has agreed with the board that he will step down as a director and as CFO with immediate effect" sounds like the board want him out.

Although he has been there 20 years, he is only 46 years old.

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Definitely doesn't sound like health - He was thanked, which ought to suggest something, and also"wished all the very best in his new endeavours"

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Hi timarr, yes, saw that. CFO departures are never welcome. Not sure how much we can read into this - he was with the company for 20 years, things don't last forever? I'll add it to the table for completeness.

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Feb 25 (Reuters) - British holiday package provider On Beach group (LON:OTB) said on Tuesday bookings for the summer season would be significantly ahead of last year, and its annual adjusted pretax profit would be in line with market expectations.

The company said holidays sold for March to June were up 17% and early bookings for summer were strong, "demonstrating that customer demand for holidays, from On the Beach in particular, continues to buck wider UK consumer trends."

On The Beach is expected to post an adjusted pretax profit of 38.2 million pounds ($48.2 million) in 2025, according to a company-compiled consensus. It reported 31 million pounds in earnings last year.

64% of the £25m buybacks completed removing weak holders. Surely a big re-rate on the cards here?

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Would be interesting to get views on Smith & Nephew (LON:SN.) (I HOLD).

It has been been a painful journey for me so far for this one but this set of numbers do show  that the turnaround plan is taking hold. And also sounds like there is more to come in the next year.

FCF up a whopping +327% yoy to $551M and other metrics improving also.

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Smith & Nephew (LON:SN.) yes views will be very interesting. I placed this on a watchlist about 2 months ago because l liked the improvement story. And today’s announcement sounds like it may be going in right direction….time to take a position? 

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I think the company is a good recovery play but I am not buying because of my concerns over the potential tariffs which could be applied to its products sold in the US where Stryker is a formidable competitor in some of S&N's product areas.

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Peter the great, thanks for the information. Very much appreciated.

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Avation (LON:AVAP) announced at 8:22 its interims and seems to be solid rather than spectacular. One for the patient investors here who wait for the 50% discount on NAV to be reduced

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Avation (LON:AVAP) ..... very patient investors!!

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Crikey, good luck with that lot today Graham et al 

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