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Small Cap Value Report (Thu 30 May 2024) - IDHC, DOCS, TPX, BOY. Movers: AUTO, VINO, NCYT, COG.

Good morning from Paul & Graham!

Today's report is now finished.


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Other mid-morning movers (with news)

Auto Trader (LON:AUTO) - up 11% to 815p (£7.31bn) - FY 3/2024 Results - Paul - AMBER

Strong market reaction to results/outlook, adds c.£750m to the market cap today! Shares have broken out to an all-time high this morning. Dominant market position, and ridiculously high profit margins (61% operating margin) - the Rightmove of car advertising in the UK!

Adj EPS up 8% to 29.37p (looks ahead of consensus 27.5p on StockReport), PER 27.7x isn’t cheap, but it’s a quality business. Outlook - “new financial year has started well”.

Paul’s view - superb business, but priced accordingly. I’d rather see it accumulate more balance sheet strength, as it tends to pay out cash in divis & buybacks, but had to do an equity raise in the pandemic. Would be better to adopt a more conservative approach surely, in case something similar happens again? Memories seem short! I wonder if it might come up against monopolistic regulatory problems, as it’s so dominant?


Virgin Wines UK (LON:VINO) - up 7% to 48p - Launches Buyback - Paul - AMBER

Has spent £139k buying its own shares, but not for cancellation, instead they’re to be held in treasury to satisfy future share options.

It also intends to spend another £361k on more buybacks, but also for future share option awards from its LTIP.

Paul’s view - given the disastrous share price performance since its over-priced 2021 IPO, sceptics might be wondering for whose benefit this company is being run? No divis todate, and buybacks being done to satisfy management LTIP, makes it pretty obvious to me this company is listed for the benefit of management. I was amber/green, but this buyback for LTIPs has put me off somewhat. Also on reflection, VINO is too small, and in a crowded market, so I’ll shift down to AMBER. Both Naked Wines, and Virgin Wines, have demonstrated well how difficult their business model is - customers churn a lot, chasing the account opening discounts, so marketing spend is required to keep replacing them. VINO does at least have a decent balance sheet, unlike WINE which looks precarious to me.

Novacyt SA (LON:NCYT) - down 16% to 56p (£38m) - Final Results - Paul - NO COLOUR

Diabolical figures again for FY 12/2023, showing a £29m loss before tax, worse than £20m loss in 2022.

Cash pile has more than halved to £44m, receivables look excessive at £36m which includes £8.5m in VAT receivable, and a £24m unpaid invoice to UK Health Dept [DHSC] - a major dispute/legal action underway. Note 18 says the court case starts on 10 June 2024, and is expected to last 16 days. Note there’s a provision (creditor) for £20m labelled “product warranty”, so that would use up almost half the cash pile if it has to be paid out.

Paul’s view - the court case is highly material, with the outcome set to decide whether shareholders here hold a bargain share, or a dead duck. So it’s a high risk special situation, that I can’t possibly give a view on, as the outcome is uncertain. Obviously I wouldn’t touch it, as there are so many moving parts, problems, and no sign of a viable business at present, based on heavy trading losses again in 2023.


Cambridge Cognition Holdings (LON:COG) - down 9% to 40.5p (£17m enlarged) - Result of Placing - Paul - AMBER

Has raised £2.5m before expenses by issuing 6.25m new shares at 40p, a 10% discount (not too bad in a tough market). This expands the share count from 35.1m to 41.4m, up c.18%.

Also doing a £125k open offer (what’s the point?!) for a ludicrous 1 new share for 113 existing shares.

Paul’s view - I used to own some, as it was a nice turnaround. But I lost interest when management spent the cash pile on a dubious acquisition. Now having to dilute at a low share price looks disappointing. I like the business model, but am not convinced it can scale up enough to make it a decent investment.



Summaries

Integrated Diagnostics Holdings (LON:IDHC) - up 2% to 0.32 US cents (£150m) - 1st Quarter Results - Graham - AMBER/GREEN

This has all the trappings of a high-quality stock: a healthcare company with excellent profitability, excellent return metrics, and well-aligned management. For UK investors, the difficulty is that it’s an Egyptian company and therefore more difficult to analyse. But I do believe that it’s worth a look.

Dr Martens (LON:DOCS) - up 6% to 89p (£847m) - FY 3/2024 Results - Paul - RED

This looks very poor to me, so I'm amazed shares have had a bounce today. It's not justified in my view. Demand in the USA remains very weak, expected to be 20% down in H1, with a "very heavy" H2 profit weighting expected for FY 3/2025. That's the next profit warning booked in then, for later this year! Massively over-stocked, so at some point it will need to do a heavily discounted fire sale, to shift warehouses full of over-priced boots that nobody wants. I think this is a big mess, but I could be wrong of course, it might pull off a turnaround. No sign of that even starting yet though. Why get involved? Risk:reward looks poor to me.

Tpximpact Holdings (LON:TPX) - up 42% to 46p (£43m) - Trading Update & Guidance - Paul - AMBER

FY 3/2024 results are only in line with expectations. So why the 42% share price rise? It dangles us the prospect of good growth, from a strong order book, and much improved target EBITDA margins over the next two years. That's great, if it can actually be delivered. I'm not chasing the shares up based on ambitions, given the poor historical track record of disappointing. Overall though, things seem to be improving, so I'll keep an open mind at AMBER.

Bodycote (LON:BOY) - unch. at 734p (£1.39 billion) - AGM Trading Update - Graham - AMBER/GREEN

A solid trading update as you might expect given this company’s long and proud track record. Commercial aerospace & defence are propping up performance, and energy surcharges on Bodycote’s customers have halved as energy prices have fallen. A highly creditworthy company, with decent quality metrics.



Paul’s Section:

Dr Martens (LON:DOCS)

Up 6% to 89p (£847m) - FY 3/2024 Results - Paul - RED

I’m really surprised to see shares up, given what struck me as poor results, and a distinctly wobbly-sounding outlook. The newswire brief comments (very useful, click on “NEWS” on any company’s StockReport) suggest that the market likes the new £20-25m cost savings plan announced with these results. Also shares have fallen so dramatically, there must come a point where things bounce (maybe from short positions buying back?), or anticipation of a turnaround - which has been a poor investing strategy so far, just look at this chart since it floated in 2021 at a massive over-valuation, and has warned on profits since, multiple times, yet it’s still valued at £847m - why?!

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Looking at our previous notes here, we’ve been increasingly negative on DOCS fundamentals -

30/11/2023 - 84p - Roland went AMBER/RED on a profit warning accompanying H1 results.

25/01/2024 - 79p - I also viewed it AMBER/RED, on an in line Q3 TU, noting the big 21% fall in Q3 revenues, and a balance sheet with bloated inventories and too much debt. Although I wondered if it might have future turnaround potential?

16/4/2024 - 69p - another profit warning! I went down to RED. The company said FY 3/2025 worst case scenario could see profit fall by two thirds.

On to today’s FY 3/2024, key points -

Results in line (“as expected”)

Continued weak demand in USA, better elsewhere.

Cost action plan to strip out £20-25m costs.

Calls FY 3/2025 a “year of transition”, PR-speak for more bad numbers in the pipeline.

P&L numbers are poor, but at least it was still profitable. These are adjusted numbers below, and note the gulf between EBITDA and adj PBT. When are banks going to realise that lending based on EBITDA multiples is a lot more risky than they seem to realise? It’s not the same as cashflow at all at many companies - for a start, finance costs and corporation tax are not optional! They're real cash outflows.

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PER at 89p/share is 12.7x based on 7.0p adj EPS for FY 3/2024. That might be decent value if a turnaround was in the offing, but it isn’t. Forecast for FY 3/2025 shows another lurch down in forecast EPS to only 3.3p (consensus, on StockReport), a PER of 27x this new year's earnings forecast (which I reckon it won't achieve).

Why is it paying divis still, given all the problems?

Outlook - I read this below negatively. It sounds to me like the company has set itself up to deliver lousy H1 figures, and probably another profit warning later this year -

Current trading is in line with our expectations and our planning assumptions for FY25 are unchanged from those shared in our announcement on 16th April. There remains a wide range of potential outcomes for both revenue and profit for the year, dependent on the performance through the key peak trading period.  

For the first half, we expect a Group revenue decline of around 20%, driven by wholesale revenues down around a third. Combined with the cost headwinds which impact both halves, the impact of operational deleverage is significantly more pronounced in the first half. Overall results this year will therefore be very second-half weighted, particularly from a profit perspective.

That sounds awful actually. This share should be down today, not up!

Revenues down 20% in H1, with wholesale orders down by a third - that is telling me DOCS has serious problems with a lack of demand. Customers don’t want its products at the price they’re being asked to pay. That’s similar to what has (almost) killed off Superdry. DOCS talks today about doing more marketing in USA to stimulate demand, but that’s expensive, and it might not work. Maybe these products are just going out of fashion? After all, people are not buying these to wear on building sites, are they? There are similar, much cheaper alternatives for workwear. DOCS are fashion products, and hence susceptible to the crowd moving on, and worst case scenario even becoming uncool products that the target market won’t buy at any price. My instincts on this are reinforced by DOCS ongoing excessive inventories on the balance sheet.

Inventories - the scale of the problem here is very considerable, and hasn’t reduced, with £255m sitting on the balance sheet in unsold shoes. Total cost of sales on the P&L for FY 3/2024 was £302m, so it’s holding about 308 days' sales (10 months) in warehouses. 1-2 months would be normal. There’s only one solution for this over-stocking problem - heavy discounting to clear the excess, which itself does a lot of damage to the brand, and of course lowers gross margins in future.

Net debt is quoted as an alarming £358m, but that includes lease liabilities. I make the real net debt figure (excluding leases) a more reasonable £184m. Lease liabilities total £182m, adding them up I get £366m, which is near enough to the £358m figure the company quotes. So overall net debt is not such a massive problem as the highlights table suggests. A presentational own-goal. The real net debt number is £184m, which looks survivable, although if trading really seriously drops this year, then covenants and renewal could come into focus. I wonder what the average net debt figure is, it’s usually higher than a window-dressed year end figure. So I’d say no immediate cause for alarm over borrowings, but it could well become a problem if (as I expect) DOCS delivers another profit warning later in 2024.

Balance sheet overall is looking stretched I think. Inventories stand out like a sore thumb, and the long-term debt is necessary to finance those warehouses full of shoes that nobody wants. NAV is £368m, and if we whip off the £270m intangible assets, NTAV becomes £98m. Note that NAV is falling too, it was £404m at 3/2023, and was down to £368m at 3/2024. Why? Because it (irresponsibly I think) spent £51m on share buybacks, and paid out £58m in dividends during FY 3/2024 (see the cashflow statement).

I’m listening to a 6-part podcast about the Titanic at present, from “The Rest is History” (highly recommended). Drawing a parallel with DOCS shares, I’d say it looks up to about episode 2, or maybe 3, in its arguably similar decline.

Paul’s view - as you’ve probably already gathered, I think this looks a complete mess. The problems seem to me far worse than a £847m market cap suggests. Hence I’m sticking at RED. There’s no sign at all of a turnaround, and I think another profit warning looks very much on the cards for later in 2024. At some point they’ll (new management maybe?) have to bite the bullet and sell off the unsold shoes in a heavily discounted fire sale. That could kill off its margins, and brand image.

Maybe I’m being overly dramatic, and a turnaround could be pulled off? Who knows, but for me risk:reward looks firmly negative. Why get involved, when all you’re doing is guessing, and hoping, that it might be turned around?

It’s fine to sit on the sidelines. It doesn’t matter to me if the shares do soar, as I think there are much better risk:reward opportunities out there. I’m more concerned about avoiding a loss from taking the plunge here, when the fundamentals & outlook are looking so ropey.


Tpximpact Holdings (LON:TPX)

Up 42% to 46p (£43m) - Trading Update & Guidance - Paul - AMBER

TPXimpact Holdings PLC (AIM: TPX), the technology-enabled services company focused on people-powered digital transformation, is pleased to provide an update on its Q4 and full-year trading for the year ended 31 March 2024 (FY24) and to provide guidance for the full years ending 31 March 2025 and 2026 (FY25 and FY26 respectively).

As we noted on our list of companies reporting, this update is only in line (hence why we didn’t focus on it earlier today) -

…the Board expects the full year results to be in line with previous guidance.

FY 3/2024 revenue is £84m (upper end of £80-85m guidance)

Adj EBITDA margins in middle of 5-6% guided range.

CFO Retirement - no cause for alarm, as it looks orderly, and is scheduled for Dec 2024.

Net debt was a big problem previously, but improved markedly when it announced on 18/9/2023 a £7.5m disposal (Bulgarian subsidiary) to reduce debt, which made me move up from red to amber/red.

Graham then moved us up again to amber on an in line Q3 update on 12/2/2024.

Today’s news on debt improving further is reassuring -

Net debt (excluding lease liabilities) reduced to just over £7 million at 31 March 2024, the lowest level in over three years and well ahead of our £11 million target, due to effective working capital management. The Group comfortably satisfied its debt covenants at year end and expects to report a net debt to Adjusted EBITDA ratio of less than 1.6x.

Outlook - this is the interesting bit, and has clearly got people excited -

The Board is pleased to reiterate its previously announced FY25 targets of like-for-like revenue growth of 10-15% and further margin improvement of 2-3% on top of that achieved in FY24, which we expect to be weighted to the second half of the year.  

The new financial year has started well, with a strong pipeline of new opportunities and committed (or backlog) revenues in respect of FY25 amounting to £67 million, which equates to around 70% of target full-year revenues. Whilst our FY25 financial performance will be subject to a degree of disruption resulting from the General Election in July (a macro risk equally relevant to our competitors), we believe the Company is well-positioned for continued growth and increasing profitability. 

With respect to FY26, management are targeting like-for-like revenue growth of 10-15% and an Adjusted EBITDA margin of 10-12%, in line with our previously announced, three-year strategic goals.

The problem with TPX is that the current level of EBITDA turns into very little proper profit. For example, H1 saw good revenue growth to £41.6m, but £2.0m adj EBITDA (4.8% margin) became only a paltry £0.6m adj PBT.

Full year adj EBITDA margin is only a little higher at 5.5%. Nothing to write home about there.

The target adj EBITDA margin is nearer 8% in FY 3/2025, which is starting to get a lot more interesting, IF they achieve this - it’s only a target for now, and comes with an H2 weighting.

The FY 3/2026 target margin is a lot higher again, at 10-12% adj EBITDA. If that’s achieved then these shares would be much higher.

Paul’s opinion - I’m wary of relying on multi-year targets from companies that have badly disappointed in the past, which this has.

The target guidance sounds almost miraculous, and I’d want to know how they expect to suddenly become much more profitable, when performance in the past has been so erratic and unreliable, missing forecasts by miles, which is why the share price has done this -

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Overall then, the targets sound exciting, but let’s get some actual results under our belts first, before putting out the bunting.

Overall, I’ll go with AMBER for now, and would like to see the full numbers to be sure the balance sheet is actually improving, rather than just seeing a temporary squeeze on working capital to flatter the debt figure.

Based on its poor track record, I think the shares are high enough for now. Although I can also see that this might be an intriguing speculative punt! Previously management did an acquisitions binge, and messed things up. That has left a still-weak balance sheet, last reported at £(8.2)m NTAV. So I would need to see evidence that they've learned from past mistakes, and won't repeat them.


Graham’s Section:

Integrated Diagnostics Holdings (LON:IDHC)

Up 2% to 0.32 US cents (£150m) - 1st Quarter Results - Graham - AMBER/GREEN

We rarely cover this one - it was Jack who last covered it in Nov 2021.

It’s a healthcare business that seems to post excellent financial results every year (with great quality metrics), and it only trades at a PER of about 10x.

A quick description of the services offered on its website:

IDH offers more than 3,000 diagnostic pathology tests ranging from routine to advanced. Common tests include those for cholesterol, diabetes, pregnancy and substance abuse; whilst specialized tests would be performed as part of genetics, immunology, oncology and endocrinology diagnoses.

The catch for UK investors is that it’s headquartered in Egypt, operates in the Middle East and Africa, and publishes results in the Egyptian Pound. And the shares are quoted in US dollars, despite being UK-listed. So it’s a bit trickier to analyse than your typical domestic stock!

Let’s take a look at these Q1 results and see if the company’s financial performance remains as attractive as ever.

In what follows, it’s important to bear in mind that inflation in Egypt is running at 32.5%.

Key bullet points - 

  • Revenues +28% to 1,171m EGP (c. £20m)

  • Gross profit +32% to 428m EGP (c. £7m)

  • Op. Profit +71% to 220m EGP (c. £3.7m)

  • Adj. net income +70% to 100m EGP (c. £1.7m), adjusted to exclude foreign exchange gains.


The company explains its strong growth as follows:

Sustained top-line growth continued to be driven by higher test volumes and average revenue per test, which increased 8% and 18% year-on-year, respectively.

Test prices rose thanks to “strategic price increases implemented by IDH to counteract inflationary pressures in its home and largest market, Egypt”.

I suppose you could argue that 18% growth in revenue per test is still not keeping pace with official inflation.

More positively, a higher gross margin is explained by “the effectiveness of IDH's cost optimization efforts as well as the normalization of margins as the effects of the devaluation of the Egyptian Pound in 2022 and early 2023 begin to fade”.

IDH’s recent profitability has benefited from many different factors:

Higher EBITDA profitability came on the back of increased gross profitability combined with lower SG&A outlays as a percentage of revenues as IDH continues to optimize its cost base and reduce expenses where possible. In addition to the Group's optimization efforts, it is important to highlight that outlays in the comparable period had been boosted by higher-than-usual salary increases and higher depreciation expenses to support the rollout of several new branches in IDH's network.

Branch network: growing at a modest pace, with 11 more branches bringing the total to 587. The branch network is seen as “a primary barrier to entry for newer players looking to penetrate the diagnostics market”.

Geographically, the company is now active in Saudi Arabia (and very excited about prospects there) but has shut down in Sudan to the civil war.

Egypt is responsible for 84.5% of total revenues, while Jordan is in second place with 14%.

CEO comment:

…I am pleased to report yet another robust set of results which have seen us deliver solid consolidated top-line expansion and improved profitability at all levels. This sustained growth trend continues to showcase the adaptability of IDH's business model in the face of economic and political challenges across our geographies and the potential of our business going forward…
Looking ahead, our strategy and priorities at home and across our footprint remain unchanged. In Egypt, we are beginning to see the early signs of a sustained economic recovery supported by the float of the EGP in March 2024 and the policy changes enacted by the government and central bank in recent months. As such, we expect volumes to continue growing steadily as inflation declines and patients' purchasing power improves.

Listing news: since 2021, IDH has been dual-listed in Egypt and in London. However, liquidity in Egypt has been below expectations, and that listing will be cancelled. IDH will keep its standard listing on the LSE.

Graham’s view

With companies like this, the first and main question is around governance: can UK-based investors trust it?

Firstly, I would point out that it’s not a recent IPO; it has been listed since 2015. That is plenty of time for problems to emerge:

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It’s true that share price performance has been poor, but an important reason for that is the depression of its earnings multiple. It’s currently trading near record lows in terms of PER:

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It’s a standard listing, rather than an AIM listing, which in general should allow investors to have great confidence.

In terms of dividends it has paid out some, and is expected to pay dividends again soon:

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However, future dividend payments may be complicated (as acknowledged by the company) by foreign exchange shortages and legal restrictions in Egypt. So that is one major problem for investors.

More positively, I note that the CEO is the largest shareholder and she has been a consistent buyer of shares. HENA is her holding company:

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Overall, I do trust this company. But that’s a judgement call, and a personal view.

If you wish, you can review the Board of Directors here.

In conclusion, I’m going to take an AMBER/GREEN stance on this share. My main worry is around the difficulty of making dividend payments - hopefully that issue can be resolved before too long.

(Paul adds: I'm more sceptical, so it wouldn't be something I would touch personally).


Bodycote (LON:BOY)

Unch. at 734p (£1.39 billion) - AGM Trading Update - Graham - AMBER/GREEN

Bodycote, the world's leading provider of heat treatment and specialist thermal processing services, issues a trading update covering the four-month period from 1 January to 30 April 2024 ("the period"), ahead of the Company's Annual General Meeting, which will be held at 10.30am today.

This is another one we don’t cover too regularly, due to the high market cap, but it has been on Stockopedia’s “Most Viewed” widget today.

Paul looked at it for the first time in March, taking a positive view.

Here are the key points from the AGM update, for the first four months of the new year:


  • Organic revenue falls 2.2% due to lower energy surcharges being charged to customers.

  • Excluding the effect of lower energy surcharges, organic revenue was up 2.7%. (By default, the company excludes the effect of energy surcharges in the results which follow.)


Bodycote acquired the US-based company Lake City Heat Treating in January; revenue growth is 3.9% if you include its contribution.

Performance is being driven by “Specialist Technologies” (rather than by Classical Heat Treatment) and by the Aerospace & Defence sector:

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The decline in Automotive reflected “a subdued market environment and the high growth in the corresponding prior year period”.

In General Industrials, there is a year-on-year decline but nevertheless a sequential improvement vs. the end of 2023.

Share buybacks: £10.8m of shares have been bought back out of a total £60m programme. That’s a substantial figure even for a company of this size!

Net debt is £45m (previously the company had net cash) due to the acquisition and buybacks. That’s a modest amount of leverage given expectations of £95m of net income for the current financial year.

Outlook:

Trading year-to-date reflects the strength of Specialist Technologies and the benefits of our diversified end-markets. The performance supports our expectation of further progress in 2024, including another step towards our medium-term operating margin target of more than 20%.

New CEO comment:

"Bodycote continues to demonstrate good growth against a mixed picture of end market dynamics and the Group is well positioned for the remainder of 2024…
Over the coming weeks I will progress the review of our strategic and operational priorities, and look forward to sharing my early observations about the Company at our interim results presentation on July 30th."

Graham’s view

This company has been around for a long time and kept its nose clean while also generating decent returns for long-term investors:

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As an industrial stock, it tends to generate good but not great returns:

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These quality metrics are good for the category (industrials) without hitting the extremely high levels that I seek in potential investments.

The StockRanks are a little more impressed than I am:

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For me, this is AMBER/GREEN. Lots of institutions like it. At a cheaper valuation or if the company keeps buying back its shares at this level, maybe I could turn fully positive on it at a later date.

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Dr Martens (LON:DOCS) Shame about Docs' results today.The us wholesale business is frankly rubbish and must be more than a us consumer inflation pinching thing as the brand isn't exactly priced at the Primark end of things.Made even more frustrating by Birkenstock Holding (NYQ:BIRK) 's, which were originally orthopedic shoes, results today and valuation and Crocs (NSQ:CROX) is hitting it outta the park for cheap rubber shoes, even with their Hey Dudes purchase maybe seeming a little rich at the time.And then ofcourse Deckers Outdoor (NYQ:DECK) with the continued popularity of the Hoka brand.Come on brand UK!!If you get the branding/marketing/pricing/product right (they need more than 3 outta every 4 boots being sold being black imo.Birk have so many different selling strap colours/styles.Nice to see a few more shoes/sandals being sold though).. Surely something can be made of this heritage, british brand that's lasted for long enough.At least the British are in the right sector...?!

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The problem with Dr. Martens is the Asian manufactured boots - which I think are majority of sales?- are complete trash.

My daughter bought a pair and they fell apart after a few weeks. Nothing like the 70/80s boots people remember. They were £170 

Funny thing is you can buy an identical boot, made in England, at Solovair (who used to make Dr. martens I believe) for the same price. 

So Dr Marten customers are paying a premium price for a crap product, made and shipped half way round the world.

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National Grid (LON:NG.)    Hi all wondering if any fellow National Grid holders here.    Rights issue recently announced.  I remember a good number of years back NG. being criticised on another board (TMF) for giving good dividends but outweighing this by periodic rights issues...or words to this effect.   

Anyway my thoughts are to take up the rights issue as being fully underwritten I assume the underwriters will be contributing to the price drops.    And then to give serious thought  to selling up when the dust clears - annoying as this will incur a CGT as held outside any wrapper.  

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I have some inside an ISA and I'll take up the rights issue. I'll just hold onto it because it's a reliable dividend payer. I might buy more once it goes XD.  I think it makes sense as part of a balanced portfolio where some income is required.

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Over 7% of Pod Point group (LON:PODP) traded over the last 2 days with yesterday's vol. already done today by 2pm! 10d/3m vol up 232% with 50d SMA crossed. Likely the big players are getting involved. Price has rebounded too.

>> New CEO started start of May with Canaccord appointed as Joint Broker in April.

>> They've started a ground braking EV charging trial with Britsh Gas:

Over 2,000 joint British Gas and Pod Point customers were recruited for the trial, which went live at the end of February 2024. The initial six month pilot focuses on delivering flexibility services to customers using Centrica’s Demand Side Response (DSR) platform, which encourages customers to move their electricity use out of peak times to give them access to cheaper and more sustainable electricity. If they participate in every event over the course of the trial, these customers could be rewarded credit on their British Gas bill in the amounts of £30 and £50.

>> Launched the Solo 3S charger which includes charge scheduling with solar mode, letting EV drivers with solar panels charge for zero cost and zero carbon.

>> Users can charge their electric cars exclusively with excess solar power or with a mixture of solar and grid energy with new solar charging modes, marking a huge step forward towards a greener and more sustainable future! At certain times, drivers can even charge their EVs for free.

We all know the financials here as Paul has covered them (bright RED rating) in previous SCVRs but the huge volume recently has piqued my interest.

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Seplat Energy (LON:SEPL) has just been given approval after over two years by the NNPC to complete its aqusition of Exxon Mobil (NYQ:XOM) MPNU plant. This is huge for seplat. Share price should rip upwards today. 

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Impax Asset Management (LON:IPX) has dropped like a stone since their trading update the other day. Surely, with a little patience this will come back strong as funds flow back. And there's a cheeky little 1% dividend in the next couple of weeks. 

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Impax Asset Management (LON:IPX) There was really nothing new in the update that would justify a move either way, so slightly odd reaction. 

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Impax Asset Management (LON:IPX) - I concur. Similar to Premier Miton (LON:PMI) , some peeps jumped the gun a little too fast and perhaps the trading range got a bit ahead of itself in the 500's with the bull run . From the charts - its 12-month low was 380s in Oct 23.  IMO a decent punt at these prices and holding on. I've bought in at these prices. 

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Impax Asset Management (LON:IPX) Taken a punt here also after reading Graham's take on the situation (and Green rating) and attending yesterday's presentation on Equity Development. Link for anyone interested:  https://www.equitydevelopment....

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Impax Asset Management

could not help topping up twice since the update.

I may do that again tomorrow.  ESG is out of fashion now. Even Shell decided to cut back investing in this field. The long term prospect is not in doubt and until then I collect dividend. The performance of the underlying assets were quite good which means the company has invested in good companies .


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Alumasc (LON:ALU) , currently 185p

Just flagging up for anybody interested there seems to be decent positive trading activity today, coupled with a bullish chart signal suggesting a breakout to around 200p

On 9 Feb 2024 Paul gave a thumbs up (179p, £65m):

"Readers asked me to look at recent in line H1 results. I'm glad they did, as this looks a smashing value share. I think it's too cheap, with upside on future earnings and a possible re-rating onto a less mean PER. Thumbs up from me, but as always, this is just on a quick review, so you need to do your own more in-depth digging."

I have bought some today.

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That makes the 4th time this year Alumasc (LON:ALU) will try to break through resistance at 190p. I hold and think it will continue its snail like upward progress in the narrowing pendant we've seen this year until July prelims.

Earlier in the week, Paul commented on how small companies could make more effort to communicate with the market, holding back investor interest. I see ALU as one of these.

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Alumasc (LON:ALU)

There is scope for further upside as it trades only on a forward EV/FCF of 5x. 
With a FCF yield of around 14% and a dividend yield of 5% , this should be trading at least north of 275p.  The growth of its water management services looks interesting.

All the best

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Paul, your comments about Virgin Wines UK (LON:VINO) may well be valid in terms of the size of the LTIP, but the practice of buying shares in the market to hold in Treasury or a Trust to fund options (presumably nil-cost options) when they vest is a sound one - it hedges the price.  So if the share price goes up between now and the vesting date, the cash cost of the options (for shareholders) won't be their value on the vesting date - the increase in value will have been funded by the market.  Of course, if they go down in value, the opposite applies.

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Silver Bullet Data Services (LON:SBDS) CEO Ian James Discusses 44% Revenue Growth and Strategic Expansion in 2023

Big demand for 4D in the US and they are integrating it with the likes of Salesforce and a Softbank owned company. They should be able to raise a small amount of funding via a RCF with the growth being demonstrated. It's my go to play for the post cookie era.

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Insig Ai (LON:INSG)

Interesting announcements today , especially John Wilson joining the board and also the new CEO Richard Bernstein subscribing for new shares at 20p while yesterday’s price was only around 11p.

Much appreciated if anyone here knows more about the company.

All the best

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Neil Woodford thinks that the Tories still have a chance in these elections!

I guess this is the reason that he has failed big time (in a bull market as well!!). He hasn’t got a clue.

I think he has to join forces with Cathy Wood.

All the best

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Cathy Wood down 13% YTD in an insane US tech boom.  Nuff said. 

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Cathie just reverse bagged, 30% down premarket, on UiPath (NYQ:PATH) 's earnings last night.At least i'm not the only one (although missed that particular one).Anyway i'm sure some of these names will come back in the future somtime, especially with the US markets liquidity and dynamics, and maybe even some of us will suddenly want to invest as we see others making serious paper gains.I just hope i don't get too enthusiastic again!

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I am a fan of Crispr Therapeutics AG (NMQ:CRSP) which she holds a huge chunk of. If it drops down to the historic resistance level of $40, I think I'd back up the truck and buy a decent chunk. The technology is proven, company has loads of cash, the treatment  costs a fortune for a one off hit (1.5-2.1 million), but it is cheaper for insurance companies to take that hit than fund lifelong treatment. The attempted expansion away from sickle cell and beta thalassemia treatments into diabetes and cancer could unlock huge profits. Worth a look for anyone wanting a bit of biotechnology exposure. I dint currently hold but plan to if if falls back. 

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Neil Woodford thinks that the Tories still have a chance in these elections!

I guess this is the reason that he has failed big time (in a bull market as well!!). He hasn’t got a clue.

Think you’re being too kind. A disgraced fund manager who doesn’t understand liquidity and who backs the wrong horse in a two horse race.  The quintessential loser. Why do people still give him the time of day?

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CATHIE OWNED ~ 800,000 SHARES OF $NVDA IN ARKK BEFORE SELLING IT AT THE BOTTOM IN NOVEMBER

https://x.com/gurgavin/status/...

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Tpximpact Holdings (LON:TPX) seems to be back on track, following today's trading update, with good visibility for FY25 & 26.  Whoever's in Govt. will be pushing digitisation to bring efficiencies.

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Graham, I’m  glad you’re going to take the numbers apart for Integrated Diagnostics Holdings (LON:IDHC) (I hold). The results sound overwhelmingly good, and the starting position in Saudi sounds interesting, but it’s had interesting times with various currencies and the upcoming delisting from the Egyptian stock exchange. It’s been classified as a falling star for a while but momentum seems to be on the up and markets have reacted well to today’s update so far. 

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Cambridge Cognition Holdings (LON:COG) (I hold) Result of Placing and Subscription.

RNS: Cambridge Cognition which develops and markets digital solutions to assess brain health, is pleased to announce the completion of the Bookbuild, following the announcement of the proposed Fundraising made on 29 May 2024.

The Company has conditionally raised approximately £2.5 million (before expenses) by way of a Placing and a Subscription of in aggregate 6,250,000 New Shares at the Issue Price of 40 pence per share. The Issue Price represents a discount of approximately 10.1 per cent. to the closing middle market price of 44.5 pence per ordinary share on 28 May 2024.

Certain Directors of the Company, being Steven Powell, Matthew Stork, Debra Leeves and Stuart Gall, have conditionally agreed to subscribe for an aggregate of 155,000 Placing Shares.

Bull points:    30 years of proprietary data, patents and FDA approval provide a strong moat.
                              Software based so simple to scale.
                             High gross margin.
                             Fully funded into profitability.

Bear points:   Several major contract delays.
                              Will they need to do further fundraises?
                              Illiquid £15m market cap.

Time permitting I would appreciate Paul or Grahams views.

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Cambridge Cognition 

Im not a fan of these accelerated book build fundraises were they effectively sell part of the company to a limited few at a discount to market . 

I think its probably a necessary evil for small caps as the cost to offer to all shareholders isn't justified 

But does feel a bit "wrong" 

I just had it with Pennant last week , interestingly  share price tends to find its way down to the issue level so expect Cog to drift down in the next period. 

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Some very hurried commentary given it is half term and children need to be entertained....

I'm afraid this placing shows Cambridge Cognition Holdings (LON:COG) got their numbers wrong, or trading prospects have declined more than they are letting on.

They put a strong balance sheet at risk by acquiring Winterlight in Jan '23 , for £7m (£4m cash and £3m shares) just as Biotechs started to reappraise their spending plans.

On 28th September they took out a £3m secured loan at something like 11+% with an outfit called Claret, also granting a batch of warrants at around 90p. At the time they said that this should be sufficient and didn't expect to need a further raise..... Note that Claret are not participating in this placing.

My commentary at the time:
https://www.stockopedia.com/co...

Subsequent to that I recall there was some discussion about Cambridge Cognition Holdings (LON:COG) ducking a rights issue because they had paid for Winterlight in equity...

Quite what the restrictions were isn't clear:
"On Admission, further described below, the New Ordinary Shares will
represent approximately 10.0% of the Company's total issued capital. The New
Ordinary Shares will be subject to a six-month lock-in period and an orderly
marketing agreement thereafter."


Then they may still be paying for the October '22 acquisition of eClinicalHealth and having to deal with an £800k cash outflow...is it a coincidence that we are in May '24 now?
"The total consideration for the acquisition will be up to approximately £1.7
million, comprising an initial cash payment at completion of the acquisition
of £0.4 million, and up to a further £0.8 million of additional cash
consideration payable in or before May 2024."

So now we find ourselves with a company that needs to raise cash to fund its "growth plans" because the growth that was meant to come through after some sizeable acquisitions hasn't.

There was always a suspicion that the aquisitions were to make up for a lack of growth in their core product - CANTAB.  I think the skeptics are winning the argument on that front.

On the other hand the placing discount could have been worse, although key shareholders are effectively over a barrel.

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Afentra (LON:AET) good set of results as far as I can tell. Revenue ahead of expectations. Loss per share less than expected. Big increase in activity with profitability expected this coming year. Looks promising. 

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Indeed, it does look promising  -  took my fourth bite today, the first one has almost doubled.  Experienced board  that certainly know the ropes.

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Interesting comments on UK market in Kelso group's(LON:KLSO) AGM update:

Market Review

The UK appears to be increasingly recognised as one of the best value countries in the world for equities. Takeover approaches continue and in May 2024 alone, XP Power Plc and Keywords Studios Plc both received £2bn+ cash offers at 70%+ premiums. Simultaneously, we are encouraged to see Boards taking a longer-term view of value potential and rejecting bid approaches that undervalue the company, Hargreaves Lansdowne Plc and Wood Group Plc being recent examples. Reducing outflows within UK equity funds clearly help these decisions, as investors do not require the cash from takeovers to fund redemptions. Reassuring and positive trading statements, which give investors confidence that the worst is over, are also delivering significant share price reactions. For example, BT Plc shares rose 18% and Future Plc shares increased by 22% in a day, both off the back of positive trading updates. UK market values are beginning to bounce back, closing the valuation gap, and we hope this momentum continues.

https://www.investegate.co.uk/...

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Intriguing announcement from De La Rue (LON:DLAR) that they have had expressions of interest in either buying their Authentication or Currency divisions (or maybe parts of).

If there is a transaction, would form a reference price for Spectra Systems (LON:SPSY) - either their existing Authentication business, or emerging Currency business.

Maybe that's why Spectra's share price has been rising so strongly recently? I was thinking of top-slicing, but might hold out for outcome of any transaction in DLAR.

(I hold Spectra in the Boon Fund)

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Card Factory (LON:CARD) goes 4.5p ex-divi today. Huge volume yesterday with 5.9m traded and price ending down.

Teleios continue to reduce? They have plenty to go still. This overhang is really a strong headwind here. Stocko classification is 'SuperStock'

A poster on advfn says a Research Tree alert indicates a full short covering by Marshall Wace LLP. Anyone able to confirm? tia

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Glimmers posted on yesterdays SCVR that they had reduced their short as reported on Research Tree.

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Research tree is even more misleading than shorttracker (see my post above).


The notice on research tree (also quoted above says) : ( but look at the last sentence!!!!!)

The level of disclosed Short Interest in CARD has changed materially.
Short Interest has moved from 0.51% on the previous trading day to 0.00% today. That is a movement of -0.51 percentage points.
Click here to see the full detail broken down by fund

******This data is taken from the FCA and comprises all disclosed short positions above the 0.5% reporting threshold requirement.****

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As I posted yesterday on ADVFN, when a short position goes below 0.5% the amount quoted is meaningless. Post below 

The notice on shorttracker website says

"Notice: We no longer track disclosures after they drop below 0.5%. It is possible that the manager still holds a short position even if we are showing it as zero."

MW went from 0.51% to 0.48% on 28th May (Tuesday). We won't hear anything else about them unless they go 0.5% short or above.

With no need to track shorts of less than 0.5%, there could be many companies with shorts of 0.1% to 0.49%, that we don't know about. The total short level could be 2 or 3%.

The large amounts traded yesterday were higher than 0.48%, so very unlikely to be MW related.

There is a way to find out the real short level. It is held in Euroclear. If you have access to that you can find out the true positions. Years and years ago I did manage to get access, but unfortunately no more :-(

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You can look up short positions on the FCA web site.

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Verbier,  If you read the FCA site, it says that only positions exceeding 0.5% are disclosed. It is where Research Tree, Shorttracker and others get their data from.    So, see above !

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Card Factory (LON:CARD) Am I right in saying they reduced their short to avoid having to pay the dividend to whoever they've borrowed the shares from? Is that how it works? 

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Card Factory (LON:CARD) . Can anyone explain to me what the seemingly extreme £80 million of trade and other payables is on the balance sheet? Otherwise I really like this one. Many thanks.

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Please can you explain further what this actually means?

Without reading the article, I guess it has something to do with the switch of the trade settlement time period from two days down to one day. Panic if you like and as the author perhaps intends, but I’ve got better things to do.

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I think the poster works in the industry, and knows what he's talking about. He has a good reputation. He's not just some crypto Tesla-is-undervalued bro. 

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Yes, I read Wexboy's X posts with interest. Hardly any BS.

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And specifically is this a long term issue or just short term, in which case it is little more than noise for anyone holding for longer than a few months.

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My morning smallcap tweet: Vexed in the City

Insig Ai (LON:INSG) Tribe Technology (LON:TRYB) Fireangel Safety Technology (LON:FA.) Concurrent Technologies (LON:CNC) De La Rue (LON:DLAR) Nightcap (LON:NGHT), National World (LON:NWOR), Tpximpact Holdings (LON:TPX), Learning Technologies (LON:LTG)

◄Insig AI (INSG)► acquires 5% of mpactScope, an AI and blockchain company, for £124k in shares. CEO resigns. He is not thanked. [SP=10.86 Cap=12m]

◄Tribe Technology (TRYB)► sells its first RC drilling cyclone and sample splitting system. Rev 'not substantial'. Delivery of first RC drill rig delayed. No surprise there. [SP=6.05 Cap=13m]

◄FireAngel Safety Technology (FA.)► buyer gets regulatory approval for takeover. [SP=5.51 Cap=17m]

◄Concurrent Technologies (CNC)► launches new high-performance Plug In Card. [SP=101.58 Cap=87m]

◄De La Rue (DLAR)► talks with "a number of parties who have made proposals in relation to, or expressed interest in, either of the Group's divisions". to raise cash. Trading in line. [SP=98 Cap=192m]. I hold.

◄Nightcap (NGHT)► will not make an offer for Revolution Bars, following latter's rejection of its unrealistic proposal. [SP=3.5 Cap=8m]

In line: NWOR, TPX, LTG

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Poor set of results for Dr Martens (LON:DOCS)

revenue down 12% eps down 45.7%


https://www.voxmarkets.co.uk/r...

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Another 2021 IPO crashes and burns. Net debt up, profits down. Super.

Analyst estimates for 2025 look pretty dire, too. Stockopedia gives a momentum rank of 5, which is bargepole territory for me.

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Premier Miton #PMI Half Year Results

"It is pleasing to have seen this improvement continue during the current quarter both in terms of assets under management but also, more recently, in terms of an improving flow environment."

https://www.voxmarkets.co.uk/r...

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Hope Graham covers Premier Miton (LON:PMI) today as there's read across for the likes of Liontrust Asset Management (LON:LIO) which has been in a strong uptrend recently. 

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Liontrust Asset Management (LON:LIO) may be about to join the FTSE250

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Could be a rough day across the pond:

"Can’t share more details, obviously, but can strongly hint we MAY now have a catastrophic multi-$100 billion/trillion T+1 vs. T+2 FUNDING GAP…"

https://x.com/Wexboy_Value/sta...

Anyone here heard any chatter?

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Can anyone explain this for the less financially literate like me?


If I've got this right, Natwest reports "On 28 May 2024 the US will reduce the standard settlement cycle for securities transactions from T+2 to T+1, as a way to lower the risk in clearing and settling securities."

According to Investopedia, "T+1 (T+2, T+3) are abbreviations that refer to the number of days after the transaction date that the settlement of security transactions takes place."

The shift seems to be causing a funding gap (how comes nobody thought of this?), and the whole thing could, as the teenagers say, assplode, as overnight rates of 1200%+ being quoted.

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Please can you explain further what this actually means?

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I believe eParo answered your query quite succinctly.   "Anyone heard any CHATTER"

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I think the gist of it is that US stock market transactions have to be settled a day earlier than they used to be. There seems to be a suggestion that this will create a credible liquidity problem for some firms. Overnight borrowing rates are absurdly high, so there could be an almighty crunch that cascades throughout the system.

We'll get to find out real soon now, I guess.

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I think this is to do with trade settlement days moving to 1 day instead of the 2 days that has been the historical settlement period for the US.

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I hate to sound too relaxed and reliant on the Fed, but this should just be a technical adjustment and liquidity will be added if required to smooth dislocations. I believe that yesterday was operational for t + 1, so we may hear of issues today, but nothing has changed re the economy or the underlying companies. S and P futures currently down 0.7 %.

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Thank you Cancun. A sensible summary. 

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This week has been one of the highest auctions of treasury bills in the US and as there has been a lot of selling the yields have obviously risen again. The market needs a soft employment and CPI data in June to sustain current levels.

All the best

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Thanks Yiannos at some point they are going to be forced to do something about the trillions of debt I do also wonder if the yen carry trade is financing a lot of the debt to help balance the fed having to pull back on qe due to inflation and the chinese selling dollars so their assets can't be frozen as easily if they fall out with the west completely.

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I believe that It has more to do with the refinancing (for both government and companies) as for so many years no one really paid much attention due to the 0 interest rates. To understand the problem the US government has you have to digest that ONLY the interest payments in 2023 were bigger than the Medicaid expenditures!


All the best

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Agreed and its only going to get worse as short terms bonds financed at sub 0.5% roll off and need refinancing somewhere between 4.2-4.8% (ish).

The only realistic way out I can see is at some point they will have to go with yield curve control like Japan even if it means inflation going back up north of 5%.

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