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Daily Stock Market Report (Tue 12th August 2025) - SUS, BWY, PAY, ENT, SPX, ATYM, WJG, XAR, ZOO

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Companies Reporting

Name (Mkt Cap)RNSSummaryOur view (Author)

Entain (LON:ENT) (£6.0bn)

Interim Results

H1 ahead of exps, FY25 guidance upgraded. H1 net revenue +10% (cc), EBITDA +32% including JV. H1 revenue growth online is up 13%, while H1 retail revenue is flat (all at constant currencies).
Previous guidance for this year was for online revenue at mid-single digits at constant currencies. New guidance is for 7% growth online. Newly introduced FY25 group EBITDA guidance is £1,100-1,150m.
AMBER (Graham) [no section below]
I don’t cover this one regularly but the gambling sector can be a fruitful area to research. In the case of this stock, Roland was AMBER on it last time he checked it, and the market cap then was only £4.8bn - it’s now £6bn! Positive momentum at Entain’s joint venture with MGM Resorts is carrying it higher: this JV is BetMGM, an online casino (including a live casino) and sportsbook. Among other brands, Entain also owns Ladbrokes and Coral. One major reason for Roland’s caution is the adjusted net debt position which has now grown to £3.55bn. This gives rise to a leverage multiple of 3.1x (or 3.4x if a legal liability is included). And when I check today’s financial statements, I find a very messy picture with a statutory loss of £117m in H1 despite rising EBITDA. There are over £300m of adjusting items in a six-month period. Even if we exclude £131m of amortisation and £76m of acquisition-related charges (contingent consideration), that still leaves a long list of adjustments to examine. I'm unsurprised to find that there is no balance sheet support in terms of tangible assets. I’m therefore inclined to agree with Roland's neutral stance, on balance - while I agree that there are valuable brands and some interesting areas of growth at Entain, I can’t get excited about the stock at this valuation. Stockopedia awards it a ValueRank of only 20 and continues to classify it as a Momentum Trap.

Spirax (LON:SPX) (£4.5bn)

Half Year Results

H1 in line, reiterates guidance. Rev -1%, PBT -30% (adj. PBT +1%). Challenging macro.AMBER (Roland)
Spirax’s management has left guidance unchanged today, for the second time in three months. I’m broadly reassured by this.
My review of today’s results suggests the business is now stabilising and has the potential to deliver some modest, incremental growth this year. While external conditions remain challenging, I think Spirax is probably differentiated enough to retain some of its historical competitive advantages. With the shares now trading 60% below their 2021 peak, the valuation also looks fairly reasonable to me for a business of this quality. I’m happy to adopt a neutral view and would be interested to spend a little more time researching SPX.

Bellway (LON:BWY) (£2.9bn)

Trading Update

Full year completions +14% to 8,749 with ASP +2.6% to £316k - both are slightly ahead of guidance. FY26 order book +3.2% to 5,307 homes.AMBER/GREEN (Roland)
I’ve been neutral on Bellway, but today’s update strikes a mildly positive tone on sales and explicitly prioritises improvements to ROCE over the coming years. Land purchases have also been stepped up, presumably in expectation of a stronger outlook.
This business has a long record of trading successfully through market cycles. With the stock trading c.20% below book value and forecasts for continued growth, I think I can justify lifting our view by one notch today.

Derwent London (LON:DLN) (£2.2bn)

Interim Results

Lettings agreed 10.5% ahead of ERV. Reiterates 2025 rental guidance 3-6%.

Sirius Real Estate (LON:SRE) (£1.6bn)

UK acquisition

Grows UK portfolio by c. 20%. £101m acquisition of Hartlebury Trading Estate.

Genuit (LON:GEN) (£962m)

Half-Year Report

Full year exps maintained. H1 rev +9.3%, adj. PBT +3.2%. Challenging conditions.

Pagegroup (LON:PAGE) (£881m)

Interim Results

Full year guidance reiterated. Rev -8.6% (cc). PBT -99.2% (!). Op profit outlook broadly in line.

Atalaya Mining Copper SA (LON:ATYM) (£673m)

Q2 and H1 2025 Financial Results

Record quarterly EBITDA €55.1m. H1 net profit €60.1m (H1 24: €16.2m). Net cash €70.1m.
Positive revisions to production and cost guidance: FY25 copper prod now 49-52kt (prev 48-52kt). FY25 cash costs now $2.60-2.80/lb (prev $2.70-2.90/lb).  FY25 AISC now $3.10-3.30/lb (prev $3.20-3.40/lb).

AMBER/GREEN (Roland) [no section below]
Today’s results highlight the favourable economics of this miner at current copper prices. The H1 average realised copper price of $4.27/lb was nearly double the company’s cash costs of $2.23/lb.
While copper prices were stable versus last year, production rose by 23% YoY, supporting a remarkable increase in profits.
A strong cash position supports continued investment and the valuation isn’t necessarily unreasonable, on a FY25E P/E of 14. The risk, as always with smaller miners, is that commodity prices will weaken following a period of higher investment and cost growth. The forward dividend yield of 1.4% no longer provides much of an attraction, so this is really more of a pure growth play.
However, Atalaya looks in decent shape and I am not sure I should argue with the current momentum, so I will take a moderately positive view today.
PayPoint (LON:PAY) (£507m)PayPoint and Lloyds Banking Group announcementPartnering to enable consumer cash deposits at 30k locations through PAY’s retail network.AMBER/GREEN (Graham) [no section below]
We covered this one recently so there isn’t too much to add today beyond the contents of today’s announcement. A new convenient depositing service will be available for customers of Lloyds, Halifax and Bank of Scotland. To me, this demonstrates the continued opportunities that exist for PayPoint as a provider of financial infrastructure for newsagents - it’s not just a boring mature business!

Tatton Asset Management (LON:TAM) (£451m)

Related Party Transaction

Cash commitment of £10m to a consolidator of IFAs, alongside commitments from TAM’s mgmt.

Thor Explorations (LON:THX) (£298m)

Q2 & H1 Results

25,900 oz gold sold in Q2, avg price $3,187/oz. FY25 production and AISC guidance maintained.

S&U (LON:SUS) (£228m)

Trading Update

“Skies are now brighter” than since the pandemic. Advantage H1 lending ahead of budget.GREEN (Graham)
There’s no reason to change my positive stance on this after a positive update. There is still a little uncertainty remaining around the FCA’s planned redress scheme, but I expect that S&U’s exposure will be minimal, if any. Meanwhile, the company is now able to operate freely again in both divisions and return to the growth track it previously enjoyed. The stock is trading around its Jan 2025 book value and at a forward earnings multiple of 9x.

Concurrent Technologies (LON:CNC) (£160m)

Launch of Compact Computer System

Provides data processing in demanding conditions. Suitable for various platforms including drones.

Xaar (LON:XAR) (£95m)

Interim Results

SP -6%
H1 “as expected”. Rev +7%, adj EBITDA -15% to £0.8m. Reported LBT £(2.6m). FY25 outlook unchanged. Revenue to be second half weighted. Net cash £5.1m.
AMBER/RED (Graham) [no section below]
I haven’t looked at this for nearly a year, but mentally I’ve written it off as a failing recovery story - it unfortunately has not made material profits since 2021, a casualty of volatile demand, especially from China. I was AMBER/RED on it last year, and though the market cap has increased since then, results remain poor with a H1 loss of about £3m. The company is now seeking to disrupt the jewellery mix and sees various other new opportunities, including EV battery coatings, but it’s now effectively a startup to my eyes, albeit one with a more impressive history than the majority of startups. I see a heightened risk to forecasts as the company predicts a second half revenue weighting, and the market may agree with me as it marks the shares lower today.

Watkin Jones (LON:WJG) (£71m)

Development Partnership for 200-unit PBSA scheme

Partnership for development in Bristol, expected to deliver £28m revenue & complete in FY27.AMBER/GREEN (Roland) [no section below]
Today’s update seems cautiously encouraging to me. Revenue of £28m over two years represents perhaps 4% of expected revenue each year, so is not necessarily that material. But it’s encouraging to see the company finding ways to secure new projects, now that its historic forward funding model appears to have been broken.
When Graham reviewed the interim results in May, he estimated an unencumbered net cash balance of c.£28m, or c.40% of today’s market cap. The shares also trade at a discount of nearly 50% to their last reported book value. I’m inclined to see this as a potential value opportunity that could be worth further research, so I’ve left Graham’s moderately positive view unchanged today.

Zoo Digital (LON:ZOO) (£13m)

Full Year Results

Rev +22%, adj EBITDA $1.1m, reported LBT of $8.3m. FY26: Q1 rev -18% YoY w/ positive EBITDA. “It has been a testing year for ZOO as we have had to adapt to profound changes across the film and television entertainment industry.” Net cash $2.7m.RED (Graham) [no section below]
This media localisation and services company scaled incredible heights before ultimately collapsing. My impression is that it is basically a victim of AI, but there are other major external factors including the general level of media production activity and the fortunes of the streaming companies. Today’s results, which we previewed here, show revenues up 22% to $49.6m but adj. EBITDA is only $1.1m and there is a large operating loss of $6.5m. My worry is that this is now structurally unprofitable, but I hope they can prove me wrong.

Arcontech (LON:ARC) (£12m)

Trading Update

FY25 rev & adj EBITDA to be in line with exps. PBT to be ahead of exps due to interest income.

IXICO (LON:IXI) (£11m)

Contract Win

2 neuroimaging contracts worth c.£1.3m in total. Re. Alzheimer’s Disease and Friedreich’s Ataxia.

Polarean Imaging (LON:POLX) (£11m)

Submission of new Phase III study protocol to FDA

New trial to expand use of XENOVIEW, a contrast agent for MRI lung scans.

Cambridge Cognition Holdings (LON:COG) (£10m)

Launch of Speaker Identification Solution

System to identify duplicate participant enrolment in clinical trials. Has initial commercial deals.

Graham's Section

S&U (LON:SUS)

Up 4% to £19.41 (£236m) - Trading Update - Graham - GREEN

S&U made a recent announcement re: the motor finance legal situation, which we commented on here.

The market cap hasn’t changed since then, and is around the company’s last-stated book value (£238m as of Jan 2025).

As I said then, my belief is that book value is around the baseline of what I consider S&U to be worth. Given its track record, growth prospects, and well-aligned management team, I think this family business is worth at least book value, and personally I think it’s worth more than that.

I did downgrade my stance on the stock while legal/regulatory issues were hanging over it, but they now appear to be in the rear-view mirror.

Today, the company gives us a trading update for the period from mid-June to the end of July, i.e. from the date of the AGM to the end of the company’s H1 period.

Chairman Anthony Coombs is feeling better and better about the business, and reiterates his approval of the Supreme Court decision:

…favourable trends have continued and even accelerated; they have been accompanied by external events, most notably the Supreme Court decision on motor finance commissions of a fortnight ago, which will add confidence and stability to the markets we serve and therefore attract investment into them.
As a result, the expected resurgence in profitability for the Group is beginning to materialise and is expected to gain momentum in the second half of the year.

Advantage Finance: this division is growing faster than the used car market as a whole; the Finance and Leasing Association said the market grew 6% in June.

Basking in joy following the Supreme Court decision, Coombs says: “it was also heartening to see the Supreme Court handing down the severe criticism the claims management sector has for so long deserved.” He doesn’t mince his words!

Turning to the FCA, Coombs says that Advantage Finance is “in a very strong position to disprove any unfair relationship claims under the Consumer Credit Act or Consumer Duty, given the size and proportion of commissions paid relative to the total charge for credit, and its excellent customer relations”. I am not a lawyer but for what it’s worth, I totally agree!

Aspen Bridging: in the absence of regulatory intervention, it has been (relatively) plain sailing at the property bridging division.

…after a dull June, it is very encouraging to see Aspen end July with record advances at £28.6m in July, and at £106.4m for the half year. This was 15% up on 2024.

The number of late payers “was below budget at half year”.

Borrowings: £185m has been borrowed out of total facilities of £280m. As the company is now back on a growth track, it is expected to need additional funding within the next two years. As I said before with the likes of H&T (sadly departing us), I like it when financial companies are stretching their borrowing in order to expand their loan book.

Outlook:

"The skies are now brighter for a return to steady sustainable growth than at any time since the pandemic. The difficult regulatory and economic conditions of the past two years have served to prove the resilience of our businesses. Of course, challenges will always remain, but the S&U corporate tanker is undoubtedly turning."

Graham’s view

I’ve been GREEN on this for a little while now, and there’s no reason at all to change stance today.

It is no longer a bargain in balance sheet terms, although I’m curious to see what the new book value might be as of July.

In earnings multiple terms, it’s also a little expensive relative to other lenders, trading at 9x forward earnings according to the StockReport. But again, I think the quality of this business can justify that multiple.

The StockRanks agree with my positive assessment:

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Family businesses, as a category, have produced many successful long-term investment opportunities - and I view this as falling into that category.


Roland's Section

Bellway (LON:BWY)

Up 2% to 2,484p (£3.0bn) - FY Trading Update - Roland - AMBER/GREEN

Bellway p.l.c. ('Bellway' or the 'Group') is today issuing a Trading Update for the year ended 31 July 2025 ahead of its Full Year Results announcement on Tuesday 14 October 2025.

I’ve been neutral on Bellway and most of the other big housebuilders recently, as I’ve felt the outlook has been likely to remain subdued due to a combination of affordability pressure and cost inflation. However, today’s update from Bellway reads fairly well to me and appears to be slightly ahead of expectations, at least on some operational metrics.

FY25 trading summary: today’s full-year figures for completions and selling prices are marginally ahead of June’s guidance:

  • Housing completions up 14.3% to 8,749 homes (previous guidance 8,600-8,700)

  • Average selling price up 2.6% to £316,000 (previous guidance “around £315,000”)

  • Private reservation rate rose by 12% to 139/week, including bulk sales

  • Overall reservation rate including social housing rose by 6.2% to 171/week

  • Forward order book 5,307 homes (FY24: 5,144)

  • Accelerated land purchases, buying 8,120 plots (FY24: 4,621 plots)

  • Year-end net cash of £42m (FY24: net debt £10.5m)

The company says customer demand has been aided by good mortgage availability and stable mortgage interest rates over the last year. Overall pricing and incentives remained stable across the business, with cost inflation running in “low single digits” – similar to comments from other big housebuilders.

Resourcing for new builds doesn’t seem to be an issue; Bellway says that both building materials and subcontractors have good levels of availability at the moment.

Profitability: Encouragingly, the company explicitly mentions the importance of improving return on capital employed and promises an update on capital allocation and targets with its full-year results on 14 October.

ROCE at Bellway and most other big housebuilders has trended sharply downwards since interest rates rose and the Help to Buy scheme ended:

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At less than c.8%, I don’t believe the company is likely to be earning a return in excess of its cost of capital, so some improvement is needed to justify the stock re-rating to trade at book value or above.

FY26 outlook: CEO Jason Honeyman expects to maintain “broadly flat average outlet numbers” this year, with a similar private sales rate to FY26. This is expected to support around 5% growth in completions to c.9,200 homes.

Looking further ahead, Bellway believes the industry should benefit from recent government planning reforms, although the company says it’s continuing to experience delays at the moment.

The company hasn’t provided any specific financial guidance today and doesn’t mention FY26 consensus forecasts. However, today’s neutral market reaction reflects my view that the outlook statement is largely in line with expectations.

Roland’s view

Bellway’s management are extremely experienced and I view this as a well-run business and one of the better quality housebuilders. I don’t see anything to dislike in today’s statement.

The shares were trading at book value in the aftermath of Labour’s general election win last year, but have since pulled back somewhat:

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The business has generated returns above its cost of capital through past housing cycles and I don’t see why this shouldn’t be the case in the future. On that assumption, the stock’s current discount to its c.£30 book value could be a potential buying opportunity:

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I’ve previously been AMBER on Bellway but am going to notch up our view to AMBER/GREEN today in reflection of the undemanding valuation and mildly-positive tone of today’s update.


Spirax (LON:SPX)

Up 12% to 6,800p (£5.0bn) - Half-Year Results - Roland - AMBER

Trading in line with expectations; reiterating full year guidance

Today’s results from this industrial group and former high flyer have met with a surprisingly rapturous reception, given that they are explicitly no more than in line!

However, when we look at Spirax’s five-year share price chart, investors’ relief might be easier to understand:

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Today’s update is the second time the company has reiterated its 2025 guidance (May’s update was also in line). So perhaps there is some hope that a series of earnings downgrades has now come to an end:

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With the scene set, let’s take a look at today’s half-year results.

H1 2025 summary

These interims cover the period to 30 June:

  • Revenue -1% to £822.2m (+3% organic constant currency)

  • Adjusted pre-tax profit up 1% to £139.9m

  • Reported pre-tax profit down 30% to £87.9m

  • Adjusted EPS flat at 137.6p

  • Interim dividend +3% to 48.9p per share

Today’s profits are heavily adjusted – rather more so than usual for this business. As I suspected, this reflects two large items:

  • Amortisation of acquired intangibles: £17.4m

  • Restructuring charge to simplify organisation and optimise manufacturing footprint: £34.6m

The first of these items is routine, the second is not. As this looks like a genuine exception, I’m not too concerned.

A quick check of the cash flow statement also suggests to me that underlying cash conversion remained strong, with free cash flow of c.£85m before working capital movements and acquisitions – this compares well with the reported net profit figure of £63m for the period.

Trading commentary suggests sales have stabilised and returned to growth in some parts of the group, with a return to organic growth in two of the company’s three divisions:

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On an adjusted basis, margins were also stable across these three divisions, with a group average adjusted operating margin of 19.3% (H1 24: 19.4%).

Spirax reports global industrial production (IP) growth as a metric to help investors gauge underlying conditions in its markets. The figures provided today show global IP growth of 2.5%, suggesting that the company’s 3% organic revenue growth was slightly ahead of its overall market.

Geographically, management doesn’t seem to have anything positive to say about any of the company’s key markets.

  • EMEA: key markets such as Germany, France, Italy and the UK are said to have “contracted” during H1;

  • Americas: the USA “remained weak”;

  • Asia Pacific: trading conditions in China were “challenging”, with customers reducing large project expenditure. In Korea, customers deferred major capex decisions due to political instability.

A quick check of the numbers suggests that in terms of impact, Asia may have been the biggest drag on H1 revenue – EMEA and the Americas were both flat or better, but sales fell by nearly 10% in Asia Pacific:

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However, CEO Nimesh Patel is keen to emphasise that Spirax’s core competency in electrical steam generation has the potential to play a key role in decarbonisation of industrial processes. He sees this as a structural growth opportunity as global industry electrifies and moves away from using fossil fuels for heat.

The suggestion seems to be that any short-term weakness could become less significant over time, as structural demand outweighs cyclical variations.

Outlook: H2 trading in China is expected to remain challenging, due to uncertainty about tariffs and their impact on global trade. However, Korea is expected to improve now the political situation has stabilised. Spirax expects strong demand for its biopharma and semiconductor-related offerings.

Financial guidance for 2024 remains unchanged with organic revenue growth consistent with 2024 (+4%) and “well ahead” of expected global IP growth of 2.5%.

Adjusted operating profit is expected to increase by “mid-single digits” on an organic basis, supporting an operating margin above the 19.4% adjusted figure reported for 2024.

Restructuring efforts in H1 are expected to support annualised cost savings of £35m, with delivery split across this year and next year.

I don’t have access to updated broker notes today, but consensus forecasts prior to today suggested adjusted earnings of 290p per share for 2025, slightly ahead of the 286.3p per share reported in 2024.

These estimates put the stock on a FY25E P/E of 23.5 after this morning’s gains, falling to a P/E of c.20 in FY26.

Roland’s view

Spirax is exposed to the headwinds created by tariffs, changing patterns in global trade and regional economic slowdowns. Today’s results make it clear that the company is still struggling to achieve a decisive return to growth.

However, underlying performance seems fairly robust to me and I think it’s worth remembering that this business still has pretty solid profitability metrics, despite some recent weakness:

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While the shares aren’t obviously cheap at current levels, I think the business could justify a premium valuation if it can return to above-inflation levels of growth.

How difficult is this likely to be? It’s hard to say. I think Spirax is a high quality business with differentiated products and intellectual property. But I also see the company as one of a number of UK industrial groups that may have enjoyed outsized benefits from the era of peak globalisation and cheap money – they were big enough to make the most of the opportunity, but small enough to enjoy above-trend growth.

This landscape is now changing, but I’m starting to feel the aggressive de-rating of the shares over the last few years could mean much of this risk is priced in. Spirax’s share price is still around 60% below its 2021 peak.

When considering the stock’s decline, I think it’s also worth noting that the recent decline in sales and profits has been relatively small. In my view, the shortfall in profits could quite easily be reversed with a return to modest revenue growth:

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I took a cautious view on Spirax in May, at AMBER/RED.

While I think the company still has plenty to prove in terms of a return to growth, today’s results suggest to me the business has stabilised and is probably fairly valued at current levels.

On this basis, I’m going to move our view up by one notch to AMBER.

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Avatar for Threepeat

Just received an email from Lloyds Banking (LON:LLOY) promising me a love2shop voucher if I opened a business account which I know is owned by PayPoint (LON:PAY) .

So this tie up extends in many ways

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I have been paying in cash at my local post office for credit to my Lloyds bank account for well over a year now

Perhaps I've missed the point with PayPoint (LON:PAY) and Lloyds Banking (LON:LLOY) announcement

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Yes thats what I was wondering - how many of these shops with paypoint also serve as sub-post offices. I suspect many of them ?  Or put another way - how many sub- post offices also have paypoint

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AVI Japan Opportunity Trust (LON:AJOT) is buying Fidelity Japan Trust (LON:FJV) "In summary, FJV shareholders will be offered the choice of rolling their investment into new ordinary shares to be issued by AJOT as the default option, and/or to elect to receive cash in respect of part, or all, of their ordinary shares subject to an aggregate limit of 50% of FJV's issued share capital, at a discount to FAV (Formula Asset Value) of 1%."

I hold AJOT. Given the activist nature of AJOT they will have more funds- the combined trust will be nearly double AJOT's existing. So probably a good deal.

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Thanks for the update Charles - Who would have thought this could happen a few years ago but shareholders do now use their vote.  I sold FJV a few years ago and after a time went into AJOT and Nippon Active Value Fund (LON:NAVF) and recently Zennor Japan - all three doing much the same thing 

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I hold NAVF as well.

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PayPoint (LON:PAY) have just announced a partnership with Lloyds that will enable customers to deposit up to £300 per day into their Lloyds, Halifax and Bank of Scotland accounts at Paypoint locations.

Positive given the demise of bank branches on the high street and. I would expect the range of services to be extended over time. I hold.

"This new service, rolling out from 26 August 2025, gives Lloyds, Halifax and Bank of Scotland customers a simple and convenient way to pay in up to £300 a day in notes and coins, with the money showing in their account within minutes. Over 99.5% of people live within one mile of a PayPoint location, with stores open long hours, seven days a week.

Local Banking and Access to cash are key organic building blocks for growth for the PayPoint Group, contributing towards the delivery of our £100m EBITDA target in the current year and our longer-term growth targets for the next three years to the end of FY28."

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PayPoint (LON:PAY) have just announced a partnership with Lloyds that will enable customers to deposit up to £300 per day into their Lloyds, Halifax and Bank of Scotland accounts at Paypoint locations.

PayPoint (LON:PAY) seems like a fantastic idea for all banks - great stuff.

Never quite got around to taking the plunge here - with retrace from recent highs and p/e now 9 its kinda getting back into reasonable territory.

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has this share historically traded on cheap rating ?

stock ranks arent terrible but seem to have taken a  bit of  bashing - i am guessing thats due to lower profits due to exceptional items in 2025 perhaps ?

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I held PayPoint (LON:PAY) a while ago, and so have some context of why it was cheap. The legacy business of prepaid electricity and PAYG mobile top-ups, was in structural decline. There was a period where that decline was bigger than any other new sources of revenue.

That has now changed of course.

I still view Paypoint as a "rent collector". It is so ingrained in so many convenience stores (20k+?), and has the largest physical network you can imagine across the UK. For any company or service that needs a wide UK network.... Paypoint is the monopoly.

Parcelshops was the natural fit. Now mature. Gift cards, now being exploited. Cash withdrawals and deposits, also now being exploited. International Drivers Licence, small volumes, but now done.

The key question is.... what next?

Could Paypoint stores, say, do vaccinations? Could they accept/facilitate crypto payments? Be hubs for niche grocery deliveries that you pick up on the way home?

The shares are priced as though there is no what next. That this is it. But if you can imagine a what next, then its a bargain buy IMO atm.

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In response to your question about the historic rating of PayPoint (LON:PAY) rmillaree, their average historic  P/E ratio has been 14 over both 3 and 5 years vs their current P/E ratio of 10.5 (725.14p/69.1p). Over the last 3 years their normalised EPS* has increased by 9.4%pa and the SP has increased by 7.7%pa over the same period.

*Unfortunately as the provider of data to Stockopedia uses a normalised calculation that neither most companies, nor analysts use, the trends & forecasts shown on the "stockreport" can be misleading. EG. PayPoint (LON:PAY) is estimated to grow EPS in FY2026 by 10.9% not 114% as shown by the "Stockreport"!

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Can someone check the IG Design (LON:IGR) analyst predictions? There is a huge uplift predicted but this isn't what is shown by Cannacord and others on Research Tree so I think it looks like an error?? 

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I've flagged this as well - it's clearly bonkers. 

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IG Design (LON:IGR) hi Tortoise, if it were true we should be "all in". 

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Smarter Web (OFEX:SWC) adds more BTC to its treasury. The BTC Naysayers have all been proven wrong over the years on Bitcoin. 

SWC have 2395 BTC now. Value of holding based on ARK Invest's prediction of 2030 price based on BTC's active supply:

BTC Base case - $1,200,000 ==> $2.87B 

BTC Bull case - $2,400,000 ==> $5.75B

So in 5 years SWC could be at multiples in value as they keep adding BTC.

https://www.ark-invest.com/art...

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How is this being funded?

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A national debt of nigh on £3 trillion is a big part of the answer which is why after thirty years of money printing we are trapped, I would imagine the £400 bil printed to pay for covid must be rolling off sub 1% rates soon and need refinancing somewhere between 3.80-4.5%.

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Not sure it's true that 'BTC naysayers have all been proved wrong over the years'.  It has collapsed up to 80% five times over the years. Just not fatally yet. And not mere scratches. Remember Mt Gox? Also it's not  'peer to peer digital cash ' as planned by satoshi.  Also it's not now correlated with gold.   

Also in a ponzi scheme with a large number of unsavvy speculators the naysayers are wrong until suddenly they are not. As Hemingway said - you go bankrupt slowly then suddenly. 

Also >20% of all BTC has been lost due to private key management. While we are at it - Just wondering how the 2017 ERC20 boom has worked out? And bored apes?  Also Quantum also breaks the SHA256 quite easily - pull at that thread and the whole funny scarf unravels.  Brokers and BTC treasures are super weak; if you 'don't hold the keys- it's not your crypto'.

So many ways to fail long term.
in a zero sum game WGMI can't be true. 

So many memes. As they say  'Have fun becoming poor'...
Avoid. 

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Ha Ha - I had to google WGMI

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There are a lot of seductive memes for newbies; to the moon… HODL, have fun staying poor… all funny but in reality toxic

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Yep, have fun becoming poor. See you in 2030!

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UK employment data out this morning. All fairly negative except for the employment rate ticking-up. Unemployment 4.7% and job vacancies down. Sounds like data will be revised later (downwards probably) as the ONS admit poor survey responses, similar to the US https://www.ons.gov.uk/employm...

Edit - As with the US you have to question the accuracy of most of this ONS labour data. All but the payrolled employee numbers are based on surveys. The ONS themselves question their own data accuracy, except the Pay As You Earn Real Time Information from HM Revenue and Customs used for payrolled employees. This appears to be the only hard data.... 

  • Early estimates for July 2025 indicate that the number of payrolled employees was 30.3 million, which is a fall of 0.5% from July 2024; this is equivalent to 164,000 fewer employees.
  • The largest increase was in the health and social work sector, with a rise of 67,000 employees; the largest decrease was in the accommodation and food service activities sector, with a fall of 108,000 employees.
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Interesting read

‘The UK economic inactivity rate for people aged 16 to 64 years was estimated at 21.0% in April to June 2025. This is below estimates of a year ago, and down in the latest quarter.’


Wow. 1 in 5!

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It would also seem it’s a lot easier to get a gov debt funded pay rise

’Annual average regular earnings growth was 5.7% for the public sector and 4.8% for the private sector.’


It will be very interesting to see what is done to revive the UK private sector.

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Why should a Socialist government concern itself with private enterprise?

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Because private enterprise pays most socialists wages

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But socialist governments don't care or don't believe that.  They think that the public sector pays back its private sector funded wages via tax and what they spend.

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What's the rate for 'negative activity' like Rachel Reeves???

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Why should we be surprised at these two sectors when NHS consumes more resources and people and the private sector gets bashed with NI rises ann more employment regulation.

Natural consequence is government borrowing to get bigger while tax revenues get smaller

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Spot on top ten per cent of earners pay roughly 60% of the entire income tax take, keep milking them constantly and they could/will leave , revenues drop by a few hundred bil and gilt yields go to the moon.

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